X-Message-Number: 24526 From: "Basie" <> Subject: Mechanical damage evidence is lacking Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:30:46 -0400 In my opinion the "hamburger" effect is a lot of hooey. It does not exist. Maybe a little bit occurs. Where are reliable micrographs PROVING that ice crystal mechanical damage occurs because of freezing. Micrographs that show ice crystals cutting open the membranes. Technology of our time can do that. People are spending a lot of time and money try to catch the wind. The solution might be much simpler than people think. Basie Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24526