X-Message-Number: 24666 From: "Joe Waynick" <> Subject: Comparing Organizations Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:06:06 -0700 I find it interesting that Mr. Ettinger believes I was comparing Alcor and CI in a recent public announcement, since Alcor's press release never made a direct comparison with CI or any other organization. However, in the spirit in which his comments were made, I agree wholeheartedly that for the good of the industry, we should refrain from "all comparisons or mention of the other." Perhaps, in the spirit of that context, Mr. Ettinger would consider removing the voluminous amount of misinformation, inaccuracies, and outright direct comparisons between CI and Alcor on the CI website, on the "Comparing Procedures and Policies" page. My statement was simply a verbalization of what I believe to be a factual reality, that overall, Alcor is the best there is. That doesn't mean that Alcor can "claim superiority by every criterion." Certainly, CI does valuable and credible research. But when one compares my single, isolated, and relatively benign comment with the numerous competitively aggressive statements made on the CI website about Alcor, its procedures, its pricing, its protocols, its technological direction, etc, etc, the whole things seems a bit incredulous to me. As Mr. Ettinger said, he and I have never met. I hope we do meet someday soon to discuss cryonics, philosophy, theology, and any other topic he finds interesting. Perhaps he'll be kind enough to invite me to Michigan one day for a tour of CI's facility. He's certainly welcome to visit me here at Alcor any time he chooses. Meanwhile, I propose that the "no comparison" rule be a two-way street. CI's website would be a great "good faith" place to start to implement that concept. And Mr. Ettinger, I think you're correct. It really isn't all that important. --jw CEO/President Alcor Life Extension Foundation * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Alcor Life Extension Foundation 7895 E. Acoma Dr., Suite 110, Scottsdale AZ 85260-6916 Membership Information: (877) GO-ALCOR (462-5267) Phone (480) 905-1906 FAX (480) 922-9027 for general requests. Visit our website at: http://www.alcor.org or to subscribe to our monthly newsletter go to: http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/AlcorNews. The Alcor Life Extension Foundation was founded in 1972 as a non-profit, tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization, and has 64 patients in cryostasis. Alcor is the world's largest provider of professional cryotransport services with over 680 members who have pre-arranged for cryopreservation. Alcor's Emergency CryoTransport System (ECS) is a medical-style rescue network patterned after the Emergency Medical System (EMS). Alcor CryoTransport Technicians, as with EMTs and Paramedics on an ambulance, are advised by our Medical Director and Advisory Board consisting of MDs, PhDs, cryobiologists, scientists, and other members of the scientific research community who are Alcor members and/or contract physicians. Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24666