X-Message-Number: 24674 From: "Joe Waynick" <> Subject: Comparing Organizations -- Final Post Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:57:58 -0700 Without a doubt I believe Mr. Ettinger s suggestion that avoiding direct comparisons has merit. What Mr. Ettinger doesn t understand is that such a suggestion has to be mutual and not just apply to Alcor. Mr. Ettinger asked for specifics and I referred him to a specific page on his own website that contains example after example of direct and indirect comparisons with Alcor. No such page appears on Alcor s website, at this time. Alcor does not need to misrepresent the practices of other organizations to tout its own capabilities. Our capability and services stand on their own merits. However, I do believe that the public should be properly informed of the technological advantages of Alcors protocols to counteract the berating Alcor receives on the CI comparisons page. Alcor not only links to CI from its website, we also link to two separate website pages supported by Ben Best. Pages that heavily promote the CI perspective of cryonics I might add. In addition, Alcor refers potential patients to CI several times a year. There is no lack of goodwill efforts on the part of Alcor toward CI. In fact, Alcor has inked to every other cryonics organization for years. Something that Mr. Ettinger would know if he had merely taken the time to look at our links page before misrepresenting Alcor yet again. There is a reason that Alcor is the world leader in membership, financial stability, and technology. It is because when potential members study the issues, most recognize the superiority of our procedures and value the importance of immediate application of medications and temperature decent vs. allowing the onset of brain ischemia. It is also because most people recognize the wisdom of the fiscally conservative method pioneered by Alcor to ensure not only the long-term care of our patients, but to aid in their eventual revival using the Patient Care Trust. No regulatory body had to impose that duty upon us. We invented it. Our members also recognize the value of using the best technology available with our customized Transport Vehicle (to be put into services this year), our expanded operating room project (of which CI has none because their procedures are performed in a MORTUARY), and our Patient Care Bay expansion project to allow us to care for up to 900 new patients in our existing facility. We are able to do these things because Alcor is a full service cryonics facility, not a cemetery that stores dead bodies. Alcor will continue to do what it has always done. Provide the very best patient transport, cryoprotection, and long-term maintenance services available. We will continue with our in-house research projects. We will continue providing research grants for advances in nanotechnology cryobiology. We will continue to provide funding to the best research laboratories in the country to improve our cryoprotection capability. What we will NOT DO is waste another minute in this pointless verbal exchange. It has already consumed far more of my time than it warrants. If Mr. Ettinger truly wants a no comparison d tente, then he needs to stop the justification for the outlandish comparisons and misrepresentations on his own website, and simply remove them. But this hypersensitivity to a single benign statement to the press about a completely unrelated matter is absurd. Enough said. --jw CEO/President Alcor Life Extension Foundation * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Alcor Life Extension Foundation 7895 E. Acoma Dr., Suite 110, Scottsdale AZ 85260-6916 Membership Information: (877) GO-ALCOR (462-5267) Phone (480) 905-1906 FAX (480) 922-9027 for general requests. Visit our website at: http://www.alcor.org or to subscribe to our monthly newsletter go to: http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/AlcorNews. The Alcor Life Extension Foundation was founded in 1972 as a non-profit, tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization, and has 64 patients in cryostasis. Alcor is the world's largest provider of professional cryotransport services with over 680 members who have pre-arranged for cryopreservation. Alcor's Emergency CryoTransport System (ECS) is a medical-style rescue network patterned after the Emergency Medical System (EMS). Alcor CryoTransport Technicians, as with EMTs and Paramedics on an ambulance, are advised by our Medical Director and Advisory Board consisting of MDs, PhDs, cryobiologists, scientists, and other members of the scientific research community who are Alcor members and/or contract physicians. Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24674