X-Message-Number: 24691 From: "John de Rivaz" <> Subject: re: Stability Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:48:00 +0100 I refer to James R Hughes' idea about "making oil worthless". To encourage the belligerent, expenditure on achieving this goal could be regarded as an economic war rather than a war of mass destruction, and immensely beneficial to both sides rather than damaging. If the oil rich countries lost their economic power then they would be more likely to concentrate on the realities of making life worth living for the own citizens. They would have no one but themselves to blame for their condition. However I would disagree with David Verbeke 's idea that > but if the concept should succeed in the future, it would destroy > the idea of a God, or at least the idea of a God with any relevance to > mankind. This supposes that those revived from cryopreservation would be invulnerable was well as free of ageing. Although they are undoubtedly going to strive to life for as long as possible, even just as an intellectual challenge or an exercise in engineering, living really for ever is likely to be impossible. It is even an impossible concept, because on the basis that "forever never comes" you will never complete the task. On the basis of those religions that contemplate consciousness after life in this universe is exterminated, the time will come when their conjectures are tested. Even if this is not correct, it is still not valid to say that the concept of "god" has no relevance to mankind if invulnerability is achieved. The concept can have relevance from any other property ascribed to "god" apart from providing continued existence. I have heard that the word "Islam" translates to "Peace". On that basis, using it as a reason to make war is ludicrous. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24691