X-Message-Number: 24868 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Discussion on immortality Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:43:40 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois <> > > The recent discussion on the value and desirability of physical immortality > has brought to my mind some questions. Why is it that so many people > denigrate the idea of physical immortality in this reality, citing all sorts > of problems like boredom, lack of meaning, selfishness, etc, etc, while they > are quite happy with the notion of immortality in an afterlife? To that I would also ask why, considering that the vast majority of people consider cryonics to be a futile waste of money, they consider it perfectly acceptable to struggle to keep someone alive in a hospital when it is known that the attempt is useless. Society is willing allow the expenditure of far more than the cost of cryopreservation on such futile efforts. It is not just the monetary costs - often the wear and tear on relatives, usually themselves elderly, commuting hundreds of miles for hospital visits, is also a "cost". If they get sick as a result there is a further financial cost "to society" in putting them right, or even for their earlier terminal care. I am sure that there is no rational answer, but it is certainly a point to put to people who say that the cost of a cryopreservation should instead be given to "the poor people of the parish". It is trivial compared to what I have just mentioned. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24868