X-Message-Number: 25202
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:23:20 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #25196 - #25201

To A de Wolf:
As you should know (but perhaps not --- I am confused by the fact that
you thought these references were worth putting on Cryonet) before the
possibility of vitrification came along, in the relatively early days
of cryonics, cryonicists themselves were doing experiments with     
hypothermia in dogs. Certainly the exact parameters of these experiments
differed from those you describe/abstract in your posting, but it happens
to be territory we've seen before. One problem cryonicists found when
THEY tried to publish their results was the prejudice by the Cryobiology
Institute against anyone who even touched cryonics. In that sense, if
you haven't read older cryonics literature, your lack of knowledge
about experiments in the same line by cryonicists years ago is quite
excusable. But still unfortunate.

To Henri Kluytmanns and other neural net proponents:
A collection of articles on brains and how they work in the October 14
2004 issue of NATURE gives a good account of what we now know about
how brains work. It turns out that even individual synapses have
behavior complex enough that they might be considered very low-level
computers. I'm currently working on the next PERIASTRON; I'm not sure
I can discuss this material mainly because it's a collection of 
reviews, not articles about new phenomena. But it does deserve a look
by any cryonicist interested in how we really work.

                Best wishes and long long life to all,

                     Thomas Donaldson

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