X-Message-Number: 25629
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:02:10 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #25624 - #25628

For Kennita Watson:

Yes we know that lots of people who should not be are quite ignorant
and dismissive of cryonics. I guess we can add the Storeys to that
list. And for readers in general, it would not be wise to believe
anything the Storeys had to say if it wasn't limited strictly to
freezing frogs. The real blame for this article, of course, goes to
its author, Elizabeth Svoboda.

And incidentally, the engineer Boris Rubinsky would have done well
to study previous cryobiology work. Others have done far better than
he when they froze kidneys, and his work at best might be of interest
for the exact cryoprotectants he used. Yes, he works at Berkeley, and
people there know so much that they need not bother with anything 
others have done before them (perhaps I should say "most of the
people there" instead. Art Quaife is now there, for instance).

For Doug Skrecky:

A good reference, which I have saved to read the paper myself (and
thanks for not just giving a net address). 

I must add that we all wish to live much longer than 100 years, so
your reference is just an interesting start. We know of genes in
worms or flies which increase lifespans. It's of interest that these
researchers have found AND verified some such genes in human beings.

            Best wishes and long long life for all,

                  Thomas Donaldson

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