X-Message-Number: 25720 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:02:55 -0500 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #25715 - #25719 For David Verbecke: I don't know how easy it is to access particular web sites, but if you can get a program like the WEB OF SCIENCE (which used to be called when it was available only in book form SCIENCE CITATION INDEX) then the first thing I would do would be to get into the WEB OF SCIENCE and look for references to myocarditis. I would be very surprised if no university library in Belgium or even in your closest large city does not have access to the WEB OF SCIENCE. Depending on whether the university library you use has web access to the periodicals such a literature search will find, you should even be able to get copies of the cited papers. At a minimum you can get Web of Science to send you the results of your literature search by email. The trouble with using Google to do this is that it's likely to give you a lot of irrelevant stuff. The people who put out Google are talking about producing a scientific version, which would help a lot. There are also some other sites that offer something like Google only restricted to scientific/medical papers and material only. SCIRUS is one. And incidentally, my wife and I, when we were much more devoted to one another than now, had the head of our pet cat suspended by Alcor. This was because we liked the cat, not because we thought cats had any idea of death. I would be careful, though, in what I say about how animals feel and what they know about death. Elephants seem to be affected, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if apes are also affected. And just to add to the complexity of this issue, most technologically primitive peoples WHO HAVE NOT HAD CONTACT WITH CIVILIZATION (now a very rare and probably absent condition) believed that all deaths were the result of someone's sorcery --- not a totally unreasonable belief, since for a long time nobody lived past the age of 40 --- and those who did were thought to be sorcerors. For Stephen Ritger: Doesn't rhyme very well. And I will offend almost everyone on Cryonet by pointing out that 1. any attempt at repair of shattered people (or shattered Humpty Dumpty) will require more knowledge than we now have about how people (or Humpty Dumpties) are put together when well and how they break, and 2. restoring even blood vessels, not to mention nerve connections, requires work at a scale larger than nanoscale. Any device or system to make such repairs may well have lots of nanoscale parts, but will have to be much larger than nanoscale itself to do the job needed. Nanotechnology will certainly HELP, but alone comes nowhere near a complete solution. Best wishes and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25720