X-Message-Number: 25745 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 01:27:10 -0800 Subject: Please Comment: An info sheet I'm thinking of for FDGD From: Kennita Watson <> Some people have expressed concern that people would confuse what cryonicists do with what was done with the Frozen Dead Guy. I'd like to answer some of the possible points of confusion preemptively -- if nothing else, it might save my voice a little :-) . This is all off the top of my head; if anybody knows of any points I missed, or something I said that's misleading or downright wrong, please bring it up. I tried to make the discussions of the procedures generic enough that they could apply to either Alcor or CI. -- Proposed text follows -- How is the Frozen Dead Guy different from a cryonics patient? 1) Grandpa Bredo is stored in dry ice, which is not cold enough to stop all metabolic activity. Cryonics patients are stored in liquid nitrogen, which is much colder. 2) Grandpa Bredo was at room temperature for many days post mortem. Cryonics patients are (ideally) prepared for storage within minutes of declaration of legal death. 3) Grandpa Bredo was frozen with no cryoprotectant. Cryonics patients have their blood replaced with cryoprotectant, and better ones are being devised all the time. 4) Grandpa Bredo cooled at whatever rate being covered in dry ice would dictate. The cooling rate of cryonics patients is controlled to reduce the degree of cracking and other ice formation damage.' 5) Grandpa Bredo has only Bo Shaffer to take care of him. Cryonics patients have an entire organization, including persons with medical training, behind them. 6) Grandpa Bredo is far off the beaten track, and only monitored once every 4-6 weeks when dry ice is brought for him. Cryonics patients are kept near civilization, and have more-or-less constant monitoring. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25745