X-Message-Number: 26105 From: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:30:57 EDT Subject: European/UK/ and Non-US based cryonics facilities and life insurance In a message dated 4/28/2005 5:01:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Message #26099 From: "Michael Saxer" <> Subject: Let us find out if long term storage is possible in an European country Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:17:39 +0200 Dear friends of cryonics I founded a company in December 2003 for cryonics in Germany. Please read http://www.biostasis.de/ . I started petitions in different German counties with the result that in Hessen and Sachsen-Anhalt long term storage is discussed by the governments. In Sachsen there are thoughts of this, too. Is there anybody who would work together with me to find out if in European countries long term storage is allowed ? Maybe in Eastern European countries ? Please contact me: Michael Saxer, Many regards Michael Saxer Dear Michael Saxer, Fellow Cryonauts, and whom it may concern: Thank you for this posting, and your initiative. My name is Rudi Hoffman, and my financial planning practice focuses on the needs of my friends in the cryonics community. While I am not in a position to help you directly in your endeavors to create a German/EU based cryonics facility, there is some information on a parallel and related mission I am working on. Basically, obtaining life insurance to fund cryonic suspension is my specialty, and I must modestly but accurately observe that I happen to be best in the world at this. Worldwide for the last several years, some 80% of the folks signing up for cryonic suspension have done this obtaining life insurance I was able to secure for them. However, especially since 9/11/01, writing insurance on non-US citizens for this purpose has been especially challenging. I do have a very high quality carrier accepting non-US folks, but there are substantial restrictions they require. Jefferson Pilot, an A++ rated carrier, has and will write cryonics policies. However, JP requires the following: 1. That the client physically come to the US for blood and urine draw. This is a pretty big deal. (But a good filter to determine who is serious, and financially committed.) 2. That the policy be for at least $200,000 US, paid annually. And you need to provide your medical records in English. 3. That the policy be a permanent, cash value building policy, with the guarantees to age 110 or better. 4. I have added an additional requirement, based on the amount of time, details, and hassle that is to be expected in obtaining insurance. On both the part of the prospect and myself. The prospect MUST be a joy to work with, be computer savvy, highly motivated, and financially stable. The uncommitted half-butt need not apply, and if you aren't really nice, and really smart, I cannot work with you. All this to say... I am working with several huge multinational insurance conglomerates to ADD them to my APPROVED CRYONICS VENDORS list. These include ALLIANZ LIFE, AIG, and F and G Life. So, as time goes by, I will be better able to serve and add to the European clients we now have. Hope this helps. And I wish you very good fortune in your endeavors, as the challenges will no doubt prove substantial. Yours for Centuries, Rudi Hoffman CFP CLU Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26105