X-Message-Number: 26172
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 23:36:21 -0400
From: Keith Henson <>
Subject: Re: Greenland Burial Plots?

At 09:00 AM 12/05/05 +0000, Randolfe Wicker <> wrote:

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>Being buried in Greenland, "a poor man's cryonics", would help promote the 
>idea that one's body lasts longer at lower temperatures.  This is a kind 
>of "home remedy" answer to real science.
>
>Of course, once anyone begins researching the subject, it becomes obvious 
>that "colder is better".  That leads to serious scientific cryonics.
>
>I can see a "big debate" developing if people did start buying burial 
>plots in Greenland (or another artic region) because they thought the 
>slower (or less) they decayed, the greater chance they would have of 
>coming back.

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It's possibly an ok idea if done right.

One of the bodies from the Franklin expedition was examined if I remember 
correctly and while he looked intact, there was little micro structure left.

Cryoprotectives would not help because they would keep things liquid and 
moving around even worse than straight freezing.  It has been kicked around 
for many years, but a combination of chemical fixation and natural cold 
storage just might be enough.  If you didn't store anything valuable along 
with the patients, security should be minimal.

Greenland has serious problems though, it is not obvious that the ice is 
going to stay.

If I were going to serious consider this, I would look for an old hard rock 
mine to use.  To keep it as cold as possible, I would install a thermal 
diode, a heat pipe that returns the liquid to the bottom when it is colder 
outside than in.

It would take a considerable market though to reduce the cost below what 
regular cryoncis costs.

Keith Henson

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