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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:43:23 EDT
Subject: Uploading technology (2.vi.1) Presynaptic model.

Uploading technology (2.vi.1) Presynaptic model.
 
The traditional view is that different effects on the presynaptic side, the 
axon terminal, encode the memory. I think this is not the case, at least for 
long term memory. My idea is that this one is encoded in the dendrite spines 
working as en route signal amplifiers. So, what is the presynaptic 
neurotransmitter modulation good for ?
 
It has been demonstrated that synapses with two different time constants can 
display a rich set of behavior (*). This would correspond to two different 

currents at the membrane level. With N neurons, it is possible to encode at most
N-1 different patterns. A robust system with large redundancies would have 
room for far less yet. The general idea is that pattern P1 regulated by  the 
first current is progressively put out of phase in the network by the second 

current. So the system skip to pattern P2 and so on. If the system is Markovian,

that is it rests for the next pattern only on the preceeding one, then there is
a number of disconnected cycles: For example P1, P2, P4, P1, P2, P4, P1,... 
and P3, P5,P3,... If there is some dependency on more than one Pn then there 
could be: P1,P2,P3,P1,... and P3,P4,P5,P3. Here, P3 is included in two cycles, 

but what come next, P1 or P4 rests on what was the state before P3, either P2 or
P5. Here, P3 is a bridge between two cycles, it can define an associative 
idea between them.
 
I think a similar process can take place even with a single current. In most 
case neurons don't work with single pulse, they use large pulse trains and 
these can produce complex interactions from pulse to pulse in the same train. 

There is four positive interactions at the presynaptic level. If a pulse follow
another after a short time span, it is amplified, that is, the propability Pro 
of producing a neurotransmitter release is augmented. There can be short time 
effects with large amplitude or long time one with smaller amplitude for each 
impulse. The 4 positive interactions are labeled first facilitation, second 
facilitation, augmentation and potentiation. The decay time is (**):
First facilitation (F1): 50 ms, 80% more magnitude for the second impulse.
Second facilitation (F2): 300 ms, 12% more.
Augmentation (A): 7s, 1%.
Potentiation (P): from 20 seconds to some minutes, 1% or less.
 
There is too a contrairy effect, the depression with at least two components:
The fast one (D1): 5s, from 0 to -15%.
The slow one (D2): Up to some minutes, from 0 to 0.1%.
 
The ratio between  the effective membrane potential and the basic one at time 
t (in ms) is, for facilitation only:
0.8exp -(t/50) }+ 0.12 exp -(t/300) + 1
The factor 0.8 and 0.12 stand for the 80 % and 12 % in the above list and 
t/50, t/300 come from the decay time in milliseconds. It is simple to complete 
the formula with augmentation, potentiation and depression, fast and slow for 
complete decay behavior.
 
Looking now at how the effect build up, two formulas seem good:
(F1+F2+1)^3 (A+1) (P+1), and:
(F1+F2+A+1)^3 (P+1)
It is disturbing at the research level that two different models satisfy the 
experimental data and this is here a problem. For uploading purpose there is 
no difficulty, either one can be used.
 
A pattern could be formed by a set of short pulses so that only first 
facilitation would be activated. With repetitive patterns yet, the second 

facilitation would enter into play and shift the system to another pattern. This
would 
work as if there was two currents acting on individual pulses. The pattern 

cycling can then evolve along two dimensions: One resting on different currents 
and 
acting at the single pulse level and another working on pulse trains and 
using the facilitation 1 and 2, the augmentation, potentiation dans short-long 
depression.
 
At least for uploading purposes, I suggest we can concentrate the 
F1,F2,A,P,D1,D2 on the presynaptic, axon side and the currents effect on the 
postsynaptic, dendrite side.
 
(*) Kleinfeld D., Sompolinsky H. in Methods in Neuronal Modeling Koch C. and 
Segev I. ed. MIT Press.
(**) MAGLEBY K. L., in Synaptic Function Edelman G.M.,  Gall E.W. and Cowan 
W.M. ed. John Willey and Sons.

Yvan Bozzonetti.


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