X-Message-Number: 26356 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: $60 a barrel oil Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:29:35 +0100 It would appear on the face of it that these posts about oil prices are an attempt to get cryonicists to concentrate around the existing facilities, and even if misguided are relevant on that basis. Cryonics relies on nanotechnolgy or a similar technology. Any technology capable of reviving cryonics patients is likely to provide decentralised sources of non-polluting energy. This is fairly easy to demonstrate -- technology capable of restoring life to a cryopreserved patient must have access to most of the processes of life. The processes of life obtain their energy without disrupting the environment, so greater understanding of these should enable cheaper energy to be available. (A wild goose can travel as far as a jet plane, for example, and I think that they can even sleep whilst in flight!) Also, as cryonics becomes more widespread, the process should no more involve international travel or shipment than a routine visit to a dental surgeon for a check-up does today. The problems of travel and congestion can be cured if physically unnecessary trips are avoided. By this I mean the attitude of authorities who are very happy to get other people travelling unnecessarily. This is not happening at the moment because those in authority who have the power of dictating policy are too busy or too blinkered to see the whole picture. For example, what may help create a safer or more efficient health service may not be ideal from the point of view of pollution and congestion. A practitioner may operate more efficiently if the patients are given several short appointments, whereas congestion could be reduced if fewer longer appointments were prescribed. Multiply this across every single profession that requires personal visits, and the point must be fairly clear. (And there are many more where personal visits are not physically necessary, but are used rather than telecommunications simply to obey some regulation. "He appeared before me and swore an oath to say that ...") In his predictions of the future, PCM pioneer Alec Reeves said in a lecture delivered in 1969 in South Africa (read it on: http://www.alecharleyreeves.com/southafrica.htm ) "When we learn to realise that the transport of intelligence and information is often much more sensible than the much slower and more expensive moving about of human bodies, it will be accepted without hesitation." It would seem that he over estimated human intelligence. Although there has been a telecommunication revolution for beyond his wildest dreams, the movement of (live) bodies is still one of the world's most profitable and widely used service industries. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more > > #26349: $60 a barrel oil [Mark Plus] > > > > off topic; "Mark Plus" appears to be a cryonics-hostile lurker. If you buy > his "sky is falling" hype, you are a long way from accepting cryonics premises > about the future. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26356