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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re:  $60 a barrel oil
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:29:35 +0100

It would appear on the face of it that these posts about oil prices are an
attempt to get cryonicists to concentrate around the existing facilities,
and even if misguided are relevant on that basis.

Cryonics relies on nanotechnolgy or a similar technology. Any technology
capable of reviving cryonics patients is likely to provide decentralised
sources of non-polluting energy.  This is fairly easy to demonstrate -- 
technology capable of restoring life to a cryopreserved patient must have
access to most of the processes of life. The processes of life obtain their
energy without disrupting the environment, so greater understanding of these
should enable cheaper energy to be available. (A wild goose can travel as
far as a jet plane, for example, and I think that they can even sleep whilst
in flight!)

Also, as cryonics becomes more widespread, the process should no more
involve international travel or shipment than a routine visit to a dental
surgeon for a check-up does today.

The problems of travel and congestion can be cured if physically unnecessary
trips are avoided. By this I mean the attitude of authorities who are very
happy to get other people travelling unnecessarily.

This is not happening at the moment because those in authority who have the
power of dictating policy are too busy or too blinkered to see the whole
picture. For example, what may help create a safer or more efficient health
service may not be ideal from the point of view of pollution and congestion.
A practitioner may operate more efficiently if the patients are given
several short appointments, whereas congestion could be reduced if fewer
longer appointments were prescribed. Multiply this across every single
profession that requires personal visits, and the point must be fairly
clear. (And there are many more where personal visits are not physically
necessary, but are used rather than telecommunications simply to obey some
regulation. "He appeared before me and swore an oath to say that ...")

In his predictions of the future, PCM pioneer Alec Reeves said in a lecture
delivered in 1969 in South Africa (read it on:
http://www.alecharleyreeves.com/southafrica.htm )

"When we learn to realise that the transport of intelligence and information
is often much more sensible than the much slower and more expensive moving
about of human bodies, it will be accepted without hesitation."

It would seem that he over estimated human intelligence. Although there has
been a telecommunication revolution for beyond his wildest dreams, the
movement of (live) bodies is still one of the world's most profitable and
widely used service industries.



-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

> > #26349: $60 a barrel oil [Mark Plus]
> >
>
> off topic; "Mark Plus" appears to be a cryonics-hostile lurker. If you buy
> his "sky is falling" hype, you are a long way from accepting cryonics
premises
> about the future.

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