X-Message-Number: 26611 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. den Otter" <> Subject: Not again indeed... <> wrote: > Yeah, but so is going to sleep. The loss of > consciousness is the real divide when it comes to (the > illusion of) 'personal survival'. <<The good ol' standby of the battered and cornered patternist: 'Survival is an illusion, so we don't have to worry about it!'>> Not quite; since illusions are all we have, they do matter. My point was that the whole identity & survival issue is highly subjective, fuzzy and arbitrary. It has more to do with emotions (what 'feels right') than with hard facts. Ergo, this debate is quite futile -- we might as well be arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or how many pins can dance on the heads of angels for that matter. It's all pointless mental masturbation. Let's just agree to disagree, and leave it at that. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26611