X-Message-Number: 28214
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: human screener <>
Subject: TMT: TimesUK article-->DNA blacklist-->Cryonics for embryos

Continuation from
http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=28211

	While I'm waiting for a copy of the DNA blacklist, I
wonder if anyone here thinks Alcor or CI would be
willing  or able-- or not-- to store cryopreserved
zygotes or embryos for future repair, reanimation,
adoption and implantation?  Reference links for any
previous good discussion-- if any has been done on
this-- would be appreciated. Thanks. 
	This train of thought originated with the problem I
percieved with Mark supporting a program that could
very well be discarding zygotes that have DNA in
common with him-- as opposed to being discarded for
serious disease. (Click back through the continuation
links at the top of this series of posts.)  The way I
viewed it, either there was an inconsistency in Mark's
position (maybe a paradox) or Mark was expressing a
view motivated by a DNA-suicide complex to wipe itself
out.  Another interesting way to deal with that
paradox, it seems to me, is by cryopreserving
 discarded  zygotes. Anthony touched on that briefly--
but maybe it's central to the case here-- particularly
because this is Cryonet and we discuss
cryonics-related things here. 
	Cryopreserving embryos is becoming a very big
industry-- apparently-- and getting bigger. [19] Alcor
or CI could offer extra services to frozen-embryo
storage centers a chance for really long term storage
with the intention to reanimate and reimplant in the
far future-- at least in cases where the choice comes
down to long term storage or destruction. As it turns
out, labs charge higher and higher amounts to parents
to keep unused frozen embryos for longer and longer
periods of time making long term storage too expensive
for parents who are then forced to destroy the frozen
embryo. Alcor or CI could come to the  rescue  and
offer low-cost really-long term storage-- relieving
the parents of emotional stress. A cooperative
mechanism could be set up with the embryo donation
center to select a frozen embryo at any time for
 reanimation  and implantation. 
	The resulting person would be grandfathered into a
cryonics policy somehow so that the new motto for
human existence would change from  From dust you were
created and to dust you shall return  to  From stasis
you were reanimated and to stasis you may return .
This may already be in effect for some who were born
from frozen zygotes beginning in 1984. Those guys are
now 26 years old and younger. I would think that
they'd be hanging around cryonics by now. Are any
current readers here an ex-frozen embryo? More to my
point-- does anyone here think Alcor or CI are able or
willing to store frozen embryos? I'll ask them myself
soon-- in further updates to this thread-- an example
of a "continuity thread" any can create on Cryonet
with a backlink their previous post-- a writing style
innovation you may all copy. Monkey see monkey do
works. (see latest SciAm). 

[19] National Embryo Donation Center 
http://www.embryodonation.org/donors_donationdecision.php



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