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Subject: Western Canadian cryonicists
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:37:29 -0600
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My name is Larry Lee. I read the posts regularly. I live in Calgary, Alberta, 
Canada. I have sufficient interest that I have already registered to attend the 
6th Alcor Conference in October. I would be interested in getting and paying for
cryonic-related training if held in the western provinces.


To Anthony and Patrice: you are welcomed to look me up when you are in Calgary.

Larry

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    #28329: Wrong Path-- XCR "eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue" to replace 
    "cryonics"? [Phil Ossifur]
    #28330: western canadian cryonicists [Anthony .]
    #28331: Re: medical professionals in cryonics [Swb1948]

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Message #28329
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:50:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil Ossifur <>

Subject: Wrong Path-- XCR "eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue" to replace "cryonics"?

Isn't it sweet to have some relevent ideas in your
email box every day? Anyway, this morning's "new idea"
is "XCR" for eXperimental Cryogenic Rescue. It's a
continuation of an idea related to Steve's article
"Has Cryonics taken the wrong path?". Cryonet is a
poor tool for keeping track of discussions but it's
excellent for "announcing" threaded discussions
elsewhere. This is such an announcement. No log in
neede to read-- very easy log in procedure to post.
[1]

[1] Would XCR be better than ECR for "experimenal
cryogenic rescue"?
http://easyurl.net/XCR

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Message #28330
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:51:14 -0600
From: "Anthony ." <>
Subject: western canadian cryonicists

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> Message #28328
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:26:10 -0600
> From: Patrice Levin <>
> Subject: Re: CryoNet #28319 - #28324
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> Like Anthony, I'm also in the west -- Edmonton.


I second Patrice's post, but as far as I know, she and myself are the only
cryonicists I know of out here in Alberta. Charles G is in B.C., but are
there more cryonicists out West?

From what Patrice is saying, she is making minimum arrangements (more than
myself!):

ice in the freezer,
ice bath instructions,
objection to autopsy,
EZ-shampoo basin

is there anything else that should be minimally aquired?

Even if training cannot be made available, what minimum protocols and
information are possible for us?

thanks,
Anthony

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Message #28331
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:14:44 EDT
Subject: Re: medical professionals in cryonics

Anthony, I didn't write clearly enough.  My first thought was to write to the 
CRYONICS organizations to encourage them to emphasize the medical approach 

and cooperation with medical people.  My assumption is that an organization will
be able to push for that cooperation more than an individual.

Unless.... you have direct contacts in the medical field.  do you have 
friends who are doctors, nurses, paramedicas or EMTs?  Do they respect your 

opinions?  Can you talk credibly about cryonics to them?  If you don't have some
kind 
of official position or some kind of medical knowledge, just writing letters 
to strangers probably won't achive anything.

However, you are likely to have more influence right now with your cryonics 
organization and with other cryonicists.  Start by offering to work more 

closely with other cryonicists.  Together you can find ways to approach medical
organizations.

Steve Bridge

In a message dated 08/19/2006 5:02:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 writes: 
> Message #28327
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:33 -0600
> From: "Anthony ." <>
> Subject: medical professionals in cryonics
> 
> Myself and other cryonicists have been discussing Steve Bridge's (ex-Alcor
> Pres.) latest article - it is very though-provoking.
> 
> http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/message/1155772204/Steve+Bridge%27s+lam
> ent
> 
> In the latest posts, I mentioned that many cryonicists aren't into the tech
> side of things. Steve noted that he is a librarian, not a scientist, and
> goes on to write:
> 
> "Everyone cannot contribute from the tech side; but we need to find ways to
> organize Alcor and CI so we can include more ideas and participation from
> the medical professionals. You could help with that, just by writing and
> encouraging the organizations to put emhpasis on it."
> 
> In response I suggested:
> 
> "So - who might we write to?
> 
> Academic journals?
> Medical newsletters?
> Institutions?
> Professional advisories?
> 
> Know any names of these medical publications? Obviously I need to do some
> research - but when I find some and take a look at them, I'll let you all
> know and then we can discuss content.
> 
> Of course, help is always appreciated."
> 
> Does anyone have any leads?


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