X-Message-Number: 29250
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:51:34 -0800 (PST)
From: un person <>
Subject: re: platt, new customers etc

Jeff Davis wrote, quoting Platt:
From: Charles Platt <>
Subject: dead guy days

> Any idiot can attract attention
>to cryonics. It remains one of the most effective
<media magnets. But actually changing people's minds
>and getting
>them to sign up is one of the hardest PR challenges
>of all.
>


Yeah, well, the problem is that so very very few
people even seem to be able to change their minds on
this subject. Which is why maybe adults are not the
best target. I think childrens' books are a good
longterm investment of time regarding recruiting
potential future members. I note that Shannon Vyff has
written a kids' book relating to cryonics. Sounds like
a good idea to me. Kids can accept much more easily
ideas that run counter to mainstream thinking.


Jeff davis wrote:
>I can easily understand why Charles finds getting
>sign ups for
>cryonics "one of the hardest PR challenges of all". 
>In all the years
>I have been reading the cryonet,  Charles has never
>had anything nice
>to say about anyone, 


Heh heh. Well, every great once in a while, he has
something good to say. Just keep reading.

>while simultaneously oozing the notion that he is
>the font of all wisdom-- cryonics wisdom to be sure,
>but why stop there.


That is a bit harsh. But there may be some truth to
it. And I think many of us cryonicists have the same
problem. We spent so many hours chasing knowledge that
we have relatively few people skills or patience in
dealing with less knowledgeable humans.



>He's a bright guy intellectually -- his articles on
>technology have
>convinced me of that-- but he gives every impression
>of being socially
>clueless (Geek Social Ineptness Syndrome).  No one --
>repeat NO ONE -- likes a humourless, dismissive,
know->it-all.  


Real important for us cryo-geek types to acknowledge
that we may all have this shortcoming to various
degrees. We do not seem to be able to see that we have
many many differences from most other people.

As for CHarles, well, it seems as if he should enjoy
life more. I wish I could meet the dude and buy him a
beer, but somehow I doubt he would drink it. Well, I
avoid alcohol myself these days....


>There are literally millions of people DESPERATE to
>avail themselves of the
>services of the cryonics organizations.  Millions. 
>And they're all hiding in plain sight.  But the cryo
>orgs seems dedicated to fleeing
>from awareness of their real potential customers,
>preferring the continued pursuit of fringe customers
>and diffident non-customers(whom they have
>historically and erroneously concluded to be their
>major market).  Oh, well.
>If someone will ask politely, I will tell you who
>these customers are.


Jeff, please tell me who these customers are. Pretty
please with sugar on top.

My feelings are that if we are very much different
from most other people, then we should sell cryonics
as a product that would appeal to people that are not
like us, because we are not like other people. We are
out on the fringe. So what makes sense to us would not
necessarily make sense to many other people. But we
target people like ourselves when we portray/sell
cryonics. Which is kind of a dead end, because there
are not many people like us.



-unperson





 


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