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From: Kennita Watson <>
Subject: Re: frozen souls?
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:04:23 -0700

Hello, Harmony:
First, no one has been revived from cryonic
suspension.  It will be some years before the
technology to do that is developed.  However,
people have been clinically dead for hours
and been revived without apparent harm, and
embryos that have been frozen for months or
years have developed into apparently normal
babies.

Second, "clinically dead" is not the same
as truly dead.  Truly dead is forever, with
no chance of revival no matter how much
technology advances, such as when you are
burnt to ashes.  Clinically dead is when
your heart and brain have stopped, but your
most important pieces are all still there,
which means that there is a chance of
reviving and restarting you given enough
technology.  Today some people can be
restarted using electric paddles, for
example (which were not available 100 years
ago).  Persons in cryonic suspension will
require much more advanced technologies that
we have not yet developed in order to restart
them -- maybe 100 years from now.

No one has been revived, so we can't know,
but consider the concept that your soul
is frozen along with your body, and that no
time passes for either of them until you are
revived.  Another possibility is that your
soul knows that you might be back, and just
hangs out in whatever soul-space it was in
before you were born.  I'm sure there are
many other possibilities, and as you say,
you can't know (that's why we point out that
cryonics is an experimental procedure).  I
wouldn't worry about it -- most likely we'll
be fine.

Live long and prosper,
Kennita

Harmony wrote:
> I've written here already, though i still have questions and fears  
> about
> cryonics..... maybe some members had this question in the past, but i
> wasn't the memeber in that time so i take this question now....
> so, when a people decide to go to cryonics and be frozen, he/she will
> be dead in the tube, right? But, if they will be dead, how it is  
> possible
> to preserve the soul inside their body? i mean, maybe body can survive
> the freezing, but my question is that the person who had been frozen
> will be the same person or alike a robot? I know it sounds strange,  
> and
> scary, but it is an important question i think.... if you beleieve  
> in that
> you can reincarnate after your death, how is it possible to get  
> back the
> same soul in the same body, becouse it is possible that your soul had
> been reincarnated in another body? o course we cannot know,
> horeality, but we never could know what is after death..... and  
> another
> question: have been ever woken up any cryonics memeber from death
> from freeze? I mean, that it is okey that you freezeing people, but  
> any
> of them are among us today in live? Sorry for my english... so these
> questions are very heavy i think..... can anyone answer for these?
>
> Thanks a lot:
> Marta Valentinyi (Harmony)

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