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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:16:03 EDT
Subject: O'Rights

Thanks, Dave. It dawned on me a couple of days ago that, although I had  
pledged $1,000, I hadn't actually mailed a check, so I did that.
 
Bob
Message #30885
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
From:  david pizer <>
Subject: update on the fund  raising

Hi Cryofriends

So far we have collected $2,000 for William  O'Rights' suspension costs.  We 
have a ways to go.


Mr. O'Rights  has been interested in cryonics for many years and has made 
donations in the  past to various cryonics related, or life extension related, 
organizations when  he was in the pink.

He has written and talked about the value of cryonics  for years.  He just 
did not get *his* life insurance in place before he  came down with a terminal 

illness and became unable to buy the insurance now and  became unable to earn a
living now.

He screwed up here.  He knows  it.  He admits it.  If he had it to do over 
again perhaps he would do  things differently?  Who knows.

But the point here is that he has  been a cryonics supporter for many years 
and through some fault of his own and  some very bad luck his condition now is 
that he can't earn a living, he can't  qualify for life insurance, and the 
doctors say he probably won't live for  another year.

Whatever good or bad things he may have done in his  relatively short life 

are done.  Aside from trying to fight his disease and  trying to not die, there
is not much he can do now.

So now it is up to  us, each one of us has to decide what they want to do 

about this person.   He is a good person who is one of us in spirit and has been
for many years, who  is in trouble now,  and who has not led a perfect life in 
the past.   

You can just blow it off and say it's all his fault so why help him, or  you 
might want to see if you have some extra money you want to send in to add to  
the fund to try to save him.  Logical arguments can be made for either  

position.  We cryoncists always claim we are 100% logical and 0 %  emotional.  
But I 
don't think that is true.  I have been around  cryonics for a long time, I 
have seen a lot of tears and also laughter,  I  know we cryoncists have 
emotions.  I don't think it is a bad  thing.



If the cryonics movement just tries to save the perfect  people, I don't 
think we will save very many people.  


If you  are one of the cryoncists that does want to help William O'Rights try 
to avoid  being dead forever, please send your check to:
The Venturists
C/O  Creekside Lodge
11255 State Route 69
Mayer Arizona   86333

Enclose a note, or mark in the memo line, for "William O'Rights  campaign"


When you see your check has cleared you will know we  received it OK. Use 

your canceled check made out the Venturists for your tax  deduction.  If you 
want 
a written receipt mailed to you, please say that in  a note with your check.

My deepest thanks to all who are helping out with  donations and who are 
posting requests and info supporting this in other  places.  

Special thanks to Robert Ettinger, one of our Directors,  who brought this 
matter to the attention of the Board and got us to get behind  this campaign, 
and to Mike Perry who also have held a lot so far and to all the  others who 
have contributed or helped in other ways so far.

David  Pizer
for:  The Society for Venturism.




In a message dated 7/24/2008 5:02:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 writes:

CryoNet  - Thu 24 Jul 2008

#30885: update on the fund raising  [david pizer]

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Message  #30885
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: david pizer  <>
Subject: update on the fund raising

Hi  Cryofriends

So far we have collected $2,000 for William O'Rights'  suspension costs.  We 
have a ways to go.


Mr. O'Rights has been  interested in cryonics for many years and has made 
donations in the past to  various cryonics related, or life extension related, 
organizations when he was  in the pink.

He has written and talked about the value of cryonics for  years.  He just 
did not get *his* life insurance in place before he came  down with a terminal 

illness and became unable to buy the insurance now and  became unable to earn a
living now.

He screwed up here.  He knows  it.  He admits it.  If he had it to do over 
again perhaps he would  do things differently?  Who knows.

But the point here is that he  has been a cryonics supporter for many years 
and through some fault of his own  and some very bad luck his condition now is 
that he can't earn a living, he  can't qualify for life insurance, and the 
doctors say he probably won't live  for another year.

Whatever good or bad things he may have done in his  relatively short life 

are done.  Aside from trying to fight his disease  and trying to not die, there
is not much he can do now.

So now it is up  to us, each one of us has to decide what they want to do 

about this  person.  He is a good person who is one of us in spirit and has been
for  many years, who is in trouble now,  and who has not led a perfect life in 
 the past.  

You can just blow it off and say it's all his fault so  why help him, or you 
might want to see if you have some extra money you want  to send in to add to 
the fund to try to save him.  Logical arguments can  be made for either 

position.  We cryoncists always claim we are 100%  logical and 0 % emotional.  
But I 
don't think that is true.  I have  been around cryonics for a long time, I 
have seen a lot of tears and also  laughter,  I know we cryoncists have 
emotions.  I don't think it is   a bad thing.



If the cryonics movement just tries to save the  perfect people, I don't 
think we will save very many people.   


If you are one of the cryoncists that does want to help William  O'Rights try 
to avoid being dead forever, please send your check to:
The  Venturists
C/O Creekside Lodge
11255 State Route 69
Mayer  Arizona  86333

Enclose a note, or mark in the memo line, for  "William O'Rights campaign"


When you see your check has cleared you  will know we received it OK. Use 

your canceled check made out the Venturists  for your tax deduction.  If you 
want 
a written receipt mailed to you,  please say that in a note with your check.

My deepest thanks to all who  are helping out with donations and who are 
posting requests and info  supporting this in other places.  

Special thanks to Robert  Ettinger, one of our Directors, who brought this 
matter to the attention of  the Board and got us to get behind this campaign, 
and to Mike Perry who also  have held a lot so far and to all the others who 
have contributed or helped in  other ways so far.

David Pizer
for:  The Society for  Venturism.






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