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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:33:30 EDT
Subject: Life Insurance Funding, some definitive information from Rudi...

Hello, Dear Cryoneters:
 
This is Rudi Hoffman from Florida.  Hope you are giving your life the  

maximum effort it deserves, and that your life is providing at least a  
reasonable 
amount of joy and satisfaction.
 
It has been some time since I posted on Cryonet.  I just returned from  a 
conference/gathering in Las Vegas regarding cryonics trusts-- and  solidifying 

cryonics logistics-- and figuring out ways to maintain and grow  wealth while in
cryonic suspension.  A wonderful gathering, attended by  very intelligent and 
creative people.  Most of them a lot smarter...and a  lot richer than I am.  
Congratulations to the genuine cryonicists reading  this post...you are in a 
group composed of some of the best educated and  intelligent people on the 
planet.
 
In catching up on cryonet postings, I noted the discussions of life  
insurance.
 
I want to thank Finance Department and John DeRivas and others who  corrected 
the posting re: your life insurance cash value being at risk.   The purpose 
of this posting is to be precise and compelling regarding funding  and life 
insurance information.  The following is germaine:
 
1.  Cryonics funding life insurance is normally structured with the  cryonics 
organization as OWNER as well as beneficiary or partial beneficiary of  the 
policy.  Of the hundreds of policies for funding cryonics I have  personally 
written over the last few years, there are less than a handful which  are not 
owned by the cryonics organization.
 
This obviously means that the policy (s) are NOT in your name, and do NOT  
count as an asset for medicaid qualification purposes.
 
Additionally, for estate planning purposes the life insurance is generally  
owned by a trust, in a so called "ILIT" or Irrevocable LIfe Insurance  Trust.  
This keeps the policy cash value AND the death proceeds out of the  estate of 
the insured, and means that the resulting proceeds are NOT subject to  probate 
and estate taxes.  Proceeds are also generally free of income  taxes, and 
creditorproof.
 
2.  The guaranteed universal life policies we normally fund  suspensions with 
have a relatively low cash accumulation value, as they are not  designed as 
"overfunded" tax free life insurance investment programs. 
The cash accumulations in these policies would generally be under the  
"medicaid minium" and allow the policy to remain in place.
 
Neglecting to buy your life insurance on the chance that you are going to  be 
indigent and on government dole programs and have to spend down part of your  
cash value in your life insurance is just plain ridiculous.  
 
3.  Life insurance is normally, even if OWNED by the insured,  PROTECTED from 
creditors.  This is, of course, a distinction from the  concern over "spend 
down from medicaid/medicare."  But it is a very  important and related 
provision of life insurance.  
 
The specific state by state chart showing this is referenced here:
_http://www.assetprotectionbook.com/s1_asset_protection_state_resources.htm_ 
(http://www.assetprotectionbook.com/s1_asset_protection_state_resources.htm) 
 
4.  If you do not have SOLID, PROVEN  funding in place to secure your 

suspension, you are NOT a real cryonicist.   You can call yourself an "activist"
or 

anything else you want.  You are not  just putting your own suspension at risk.
 If there are delays in your  suspension due to your neglecting to "have your 
act together" regarding the  written and properly funded directives to put 

you into suspension, there is a  risk that you may give the entire enterprize of
cryonics a black eye.  You  make this noble effort appear amateurish and 

ignorant and  unscientific.   Some planning, even imperfectly done, is better 
than 
 waiting until it is too late.
 
5.  In should be pointed out that life insurance policies with named  

beneficiaries AVOID the delays and problems of probate.  In other words, if  
your 
cryonics organization is named as beneficiary or partial beneficiary of the  
policy, your proceeds will go directly to the named beneficiary upon  
pronouncement of legal "death."  
 
This information, which is accurate, supercedes and corrects some of the  
disinformation that has been posted on cryonet recently.  

An actual  case I delivered a cryonics "death benefit" on involved an 
individual whose four  children were VERY unsupportive of their father being 

suspended.  It did  not matter.  Your wishes will be carried out if you have 
funding 

and  directives set up properly.  If you don't, they won't.  It is that  simple.
 
6.  Folks, this is a DEADLY serious issue.  Proper and solid  funding for 
your suspension, for the suspension of people YOU care about, is  absolutely 

vital.  If you are unsure about some element of the cryonics  process, or any of
the variables that people have legitimate concerns about, so  be it.  But, 

please, get your funding in PLACE, make your family or loved  ones or a charity

the beneficiary until you get your questions answered to your  satisfaction, and
then you can always REDIRECT the beneficiary and ownership of  your policy.  
If you can't afford a permanent universal life  policy, buy an upgradable term 
policy, which locks in your insurability and  your rate for a term or period 
of time.  Do your homework WHILE  you are covered and have secured the OPTIONS 
you may want for  yourself and those you care about. 

FUNDING is MISSION CRITICAL  to your suspension.  It is not something you 
should be getting advice from  dillatantes and cousin Billy Bob about, or even 
well meaning and unevenly  informed posters on cryonet. 
 
7.  Sorry if any of this sound unduly harsh or cold or  unfeeling.  Like most 
of you, I genuinely CARE about both the realities and  the perceptions about 
cryonics.  This lifeboat must be as secure as we can  make it.  My sincere 
thanks go to the foresightful humans making cryonics a  viable and workable 
alternative to non-existence.  I would be happy to  be corrected if any of the 
above is not accurate or precise or is incomplete or  misleading in any way.   
Because reality matters to folks like  us.
 
Respectfully Submitted,
 
Rudi

Rudi Richard Hoffman CFP CLU  ChFC

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