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From: "Jens Rabis" <>
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Subject: AW: CryoNet #31237 - #31239
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:48:48 +0100
Denis quickly,
it is about life and death.
How much money is missing William O'Rights? Without compassion from a
Cryonic Institute! No price exceptions, no begging, no mental extortion with
illness stories. So the entire sum.
An institute would also freeze his head? He wants freeze the head ... in an
emergency, if the cheaper!?
I refuse to read his story, i wish that the frozen people can peacefully
sleep.
Perhaps more people donating ... from anger about me. No problem. The future
will show, which way is better for the defense in the Dewars.
And then asked her ... whether someone gives immediately credit ... when a
donor or donars several guarantees (for example long-term leases real estate
or gold). So that the lender, can hope for a long-term repayment.
You understand? Questions?
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Tempo Denis,
es geht um Leben und Tod.
Wie viel Geld fehlt William O'Rights? Ohne Mitleid von einem
Cryonic-Institut! Keine Preis-Ausnahmen, Kein Betteln, kein mentales
Erpressen mit Krankheitsgeschichten. Also die komplette Summe.
Wurde ein Institut auch nur seinen Kopf einfrieren? Will er das im Notfall,
wenn es billiger ist?
Ich weigere mich seine Geschichte zu lesen, ich will dass die eingefrorenen
Menschen ruhig schlafen konnen.
Vielleicht spenden mehr Menschen aus Wut uber mich. Kein Problem. Die
Zukunft wird zeigen, welcher Weg besser ist, fur die Schwachen in den
Dewars.
Und dann fragt ihr, ob jemand Sofort-Credit gibt, wenn Spender Sicherheiten
bieten (z.Bsp. langfristig vermietete Immobilien oder Gold). So dass der
Kreditgeber, auf eine langfristige Ruckzahlung hoffen kann.
Alles verstanden? Fragen?
Best Greetings Jens Rabis
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#31237: AW: CryoNet #31234 - #31236 [Jens Rabis]
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#31239: William O'Rights [Shannon]
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Message #31237
From: "Jens Rabis" <>
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Subject: AW: CryoNet #31234 - #31236
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:27:10 +0100
Hello Denis,
100% money safety for William O'Rights?
I think he needs a credit. Credit to pay off donors, even if he is already
"dead" is.
Illness stories do not impress me. A beloved a mine person, he is on living
body rotten (breast cancer).
If more and more people to Cryonic believe, we need financial and mental
hardness.
I am thinking not(!) to live, but now frozen people. They are the weakest
and hope that we work well with money.
You've ignored me Denis, but I do not you ignore * smile *.
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100% Geld-Sicherheit fur William O'Rights?
Ich denke, er braucht einen Credit. Den Credit zahlen Spender ab, auch wenn
er schon tot ist.
Krankheitsgeschichten beeindrucken mich nicht. Eine geliebte Person von mir,
ist am lebendigen Leibe an Brustkrebs verfault.
Wenn immer mehr Menschen an Cryonic glauben, wir Geld und mentale Harte
immer wichtiger. Dabei denke ich nicht vor allem an die Lebenden, sondern an
die nachhaltige Aufbewahrung der Menschen, die schon eingefroren sind.
Die sind die Schwachsten und hoffen, dass wir mit Geld gut umgehen.
Du hast mich ignoriert Denis, aber ich ignoriere dich nicht *smile*.
Best greetings
Jens Rabis
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Message #31238
From: Dan Hitt <>
Subject: we don't want to look like spammers
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:46:30 -0500 (EST)
Hi All,
Let me preface this by saying that i like to read what David Pascal
writes. And second, not only do i like Rudi, he is my insurance
agent, and i think he's doing a real service for cryonics. And i have
a lot of respect for John for his service to CI, and even when i don't
completely agree with him (e.g., about just how to invest in tech), i
think he has an insightful perspective and his points should be
seriously considered.
Further, i can understand why, when we look at what we think is a
thoughtful promotion of cryonics we'd like people to see it. And i
think we can indeed reasonably send such a promotion to people we
know.
But i do think Keith L has a quite valid point about receiving
unsolicited mass mailings.
It is called spam, and people really, really don't like it.
For technical mailing lists you generally cannot even subscribe
without a mail-back confirmation. I.e., the subscriber has take a
specific action to assure the mailer that he or she really does want
to be on the list. This is just as Keith said in his post.
For political mailing lists, the more savvy ones caution their
subscribers to not forward their mail indiscriminately. They add
words like "sending spam hurts our movement" to their mailings.
So if there's even a hint that something looks like spam, we shouldn't
send it to gobs of people we don't know.
dan
PS: My own email experience is something like Keith's: because of spam
i delete everything that comes to my panix account. So if anybody
needs to send me mail, send it to dan.hitt at google's gmail.com.
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Message #31239
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:40:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Shannon <>
Subject: William O'Rights
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The latest update today, is not looking good--I've been hoping (and still
do) that he'll be able to avoid hospice:
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23501&st=210&start=210
Shannon
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