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From: "Jens Rabis" <>
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Subject: image consultants for the(!) cryonic
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:09:44 +0100
Hello,
I think that the(!) Cryonic need currently mainly image consultants.
My deepest abdominal-feelings have never betrayed me.
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Ich glaube, die(!) Kryonik braucht derzeit vor allem Imageberater.
Meine tiefsten Bauchgefuhle haben mich noch nie betrogen.
Best Greetings
Jens Rabis
Germany-Rheinfelden
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#31256: Re: Alien Nation [Kennita Watson]
#31257: cryoletter link broken [John de Rivaz]
#31259: Re: O'Rights -- a chance [RAMole]
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Message #31256
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From: Kennita Watson <>
Subject: Re: Alien Nation
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:27:39 -0800
un person wrote:
> The joke is on Caplan. People who sign up cryonics, at least so
> far, are already fairly alienated from this society. This is
> probably the biggest reason why they sign up. So, I doubt it will
> be that big a step for us to go into a future as almost an alien
> being. Many of us cryonicists are, in some respects, already aliens
> in our own time and place today.
>
> Most of us already long for some other place. We lack sufficient
> connections to this society to keep us here. And some of us feel
> cheated by our inability to fit in, to adapt to this current
> society. I guess a lot of us want another chance.
>
> Most people cannot bear to leave this present for an unknown
> because they have so tightly integrated this present into their own
> being that they cannot conceive of giving it up.
>
> But we cryonicists, in large part, I suspect, would welcome leaving
> this society. The bonds are already so weak that most of us will
> never miss them, or at least that is the way we feel now.
What "we", Kimosabe? Speak for yourself!
I, for one, love it here, and I don't relish
the thought of being suspended and missing a
lot; it's just better than dying and missing
it all.
I don't fit in with a lot of people, but I
just don't hang out with those people. At
least for the people in what I consider "my"
segment of society, I hope I'd be considered
someone to come back to, not just someone to
leave.
Live long and prosper,
Kennita
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Message #31257
From: "John de Rivaz" <>
Subject: cryoletter link broken
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:42:49 -0000
The link http://www.cryoletter.org/ appears to be broken. It is used in many
places on the web to link to a scientists' affidavit letter.
Hopefully whoever is responsible for it will read this (or be told about it)
and pay the renewal fee.
--
Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and
more
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Message #31259
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:52:07 EST
Subject: Re: O'Rights -- a chance
In a message dated 12/12/2008 3:00:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, Chris
Manning writes:
Regarding my own donation, I have indicated that if it can't be spent on Mr
O'Rights then I want it applied to Marce Johnson. That would not be
possible
if it were gambled and lost.
I think she is also short of the needed amount, though she has more than he
does. Perhaps the amounts combined are enough for one person. Then maybe
the
amounts should be combined and lots drawn to see which one gets it. If she
has, say, twice what he does then she'd deserve twice the chance, so she'd
get
two chips and he'd get one, to be drawn from a jar.
In this way the money would stay in the cryonics community, as opposed to
being lost to some casino. And if there were money left over, it could go to
the
loser's representative, who would bet it (probably on a long-shot bet
paying
6-to-1 or whatever was needed) at a casino.
As is, it looks like neither one will be preserved and someone will have to
decide what to do with the money.
I do agree that the contributors would have to agree to the plan.
Alan Mole
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