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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re: religion declining 
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0000

As to why cryonics shouldn't be marked in the Canadian province of British 
Columbia:

a good reference is http://www.cryocdn.org/law57.html

Richard Dawkins wrote in The Selfish Gene how lawyers appear to act 
independently and to the advantage of their clients but in reality they are 
playing a game which results in the maximum income for their profession as a 
whole at the expense of their clients. He goes on to say how the fact that 
this profession is over-represented in legislatures prevents any improvement 
in this situation for the electorate. The adversarial nature of legislatures 
does nothing to improve things either. [Chapter 12 about 2/3 of the way 
through.]

The unitiated see cryonics as a way of making lots of money from gullible 
people, so it is hardly surprising the legislatures see legislation about 
cryonics as a way of getting money for the profession from these gullible 
people. It is exactly as Dawkins says in his book -- it is all done in the 
name of **protecting** the gullible, ie the exact opposite of what it is 
really doing. He suggests that many lawyers are unaware of the way their 
profession works and may genuinely beleive that they are helping their 
clients.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
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more

From: 2Arcturus <>
Subject: Re: religion declining

<del>
Why shouldn't cryonics be able to be marketed in Canada? What *secular* case 
was made against it in Canada?
Not that I, personally, would "market" cryonics.

>>>This could be due to the fact that cryonics is regarded there as a
type of religion.

I haven't been able to find the text of the circular, but I doubt cryonics 
was banned because it was viewed as religious. Secular legal precedent seems 
to be the idea in 


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9B03E4D91339F937A25750C0A9649C8B63.

But this is a very complex subject, impossible to discuss fully in emails. I 
would just say religions can be reflected in legal codes and political 
systems.
<del> 

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