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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Piotr Blass <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #31525 - #31527
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#31525: re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics [John de Rivaz]
#31527: re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics [Mathew Sullivan]
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Message #31525
From: "John de Rivaz" <>
References: <>
Subject: re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:14:40 -0000
Quite so. The Jehovah's Witnesses do mention cryonics on their web site
http://www.watchtower.org/e/19991015/article_01.htm
http://www.watchtower.org/e/20061001/article_02.htm
but go on to say it is unnecessary because God has said he will do it (perform
resurrections) for them. I find this strange because in terms of everything
else, their Bible teaches that people have to help themselves in order for God
to help them.
I find the anomaly to be similar to the argument that there is something
deliberate that makes people grow frail with age. If there is, why is it the
only thing in the entire universe that never fails completely?
Unfortunately there is no way of communicating with the JWs as an entity
comparable to communicating with cryonicists through CryoNet. Talking about it
to individuals or even addressing a JW meeting (if such an event were possible)
would achieve little even if those present could be made to consider the idea of
cryonics.
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Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and
more
From: rr ss <>
Subject: re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics
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As an example of the potential of this approach, I offer the Jehovah's
witnesses. This branch of Protestantism (which numbers in the MILLIONS, I
believe) is an outlier branch because it interprets certain bible verses to mean
that after the resurrection the righteous will live on the earth forever. But as
for the agency of the resurrection, they look to the invisible man in the sky.
Not real credible as far as I am concerned.
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Message #31527
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:35:18 -0400
Subject: re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics
From: Mathew Sullivan <>
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Thanks for the scripture quotes. I placed them at the following wiki link:
http://cryonics.wikispaces.com/Religion If you know of other scripture
quotes you feel are relevant, please post them.
Mathew Sullivan
The current business model of cryonics is likened to Henry Ford's
attachment
to the Model T.
Diversifying Cryonics Into Mainstream Corporate America:
http://www.mathewsullivan.com/
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