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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re: the immortalist Bible and cryonics 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:44:55 -0000


Surely a similar argument could be applied to interesting anyone in a religion. 
In order to get involved with the religion at all they would have to consider 
what it says about the subject of death. Most of not all religions seem centred 
on death, often in terms of self-sacrifice and reward in an afterlife.


I would agree that a lot of people become uncomfortable when made to start 
talking about any deep issue. This is especially true when discussing, even in a
non confrontational way, the core of their religion. It seems that people join 
a religion because they like the activities, or just consider the other members 
of it that they have met to be "nice people". Many people stay with the religion
that their parents had, therefore may never have considered the deep issues 
surrounding it. As long as they can sing in the church, that is all that is 
needed.


Unfortunately, cryonics has as its only activity "training sessions", ie courses
for volunteers to help with cryopreservations. There is nothing as emotionally 
uplifting as a church service. The "training" is like people due to go to 
hospital having to go to courses on how to do jobs on the wards. In terms of 
"nice people" there probably are similar interests in such things as futurism 
and technology, but a lot of cryonicists get on badly with each other.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

From: David Stodolsky <>
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That is, thoughts of death will be suppressed from  
awareness. This is a way of not dealing with the issue at all.
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