X-Message-Number: 31619
From: "John de Rivaz" <>
References: <>
Subject: Re: Radio 5 live programme
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:50:14 +0100

The underlying html code is

<bgsound src="r5l.wma">

I am surprised if that is really Active X and not just html. You could try 
downloading < http://www.cryonics-europe.org/r5l.wma > and playing it in an 
audio media player that accepts wma files. It is not a video file, only 
audio. Better would be to download a windows media codec for your browser.

The problem with stating that such and such a media file is not a universal 
format is that the web had been around for over a decade and must contain a 
lot of files in some once popular format. It is not going to be practical to 
re-code them every few months to the latest standard. YouTube uses flv 
files, and guess what, they don't play on TV media players, and have to be 
converted to something else, usually wmv, vob or mpg. The conversion program 
has a small financial cost, but more importantly each time a file is 
converted to or from the latest system it loses some fidelity. The solution 
should be that historic codecs are available for download to web browsers. 
They are for more flexible than tv media players and can be upgraded to play 
both the latest and the oldest coding ideas.

This does have an important relevance to cryonics above merely listening to 
current broadcasts. If people are revived, they will probably want and 
indeed need to see items they have recorded on disc or put on the web.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

----- Original Message ----- 


"Requires ActiveX!!??!  Aargh!  Is there some more
universal format you can  make it available in?
MP4, say?  Or upload it to YouTube or Google Video
or *someplace* that doesn't use ActiveX?  Pretty
please?





The underlying html code is

<bgsound src="r5l.wma">

I am surprised that that is really Active X and not just html. You could try 
downloading < http://www.cryonics-europe.org/r5l.wma > and playing it in an 
audio media player that accepts wma files. It is not a video file, only 
audio. Better would be to download a windows media codec for your browser.

The problem with stating that such and such a media file is not a universal 
format is that the web had been around for over a decade and must contain a 
lot of files in some once popular format. It is not going to be practical to 
re-code them every few months to the latest standard. YouTube uses flv 
files, and guess what, they don't play on TV media players, and have to be 
converted to something else, usually wmv, vob or mpg. The conversion program 
has a small financial cost, but more importantly each time a file is 
converted to or from the latest system it loses some fidelity. The solution 
should be that historic codecs are available for download to web browsers. 
They are for more flexible than tv media players and can be upgraded to play 
both the latest and the oldest coding ideas.

This does have an important relevance to cryonics above merely listening to 
current boradcasts. If people are revived, they will probably want and 
indeed need to see items thay have recorded on disc or put on the web.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

----- Original Message ----- 


"Requires ActiveX!!??!  Aargh!  Is there some more
universal format you can  make it available in?
MP4, say?  Or upload it to YouTube or Google Video
or *someplace* that doesn't use ActiveX?  Pretty
please? 

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