X-Message-Number: 3205
From:   (Ian Taylor)
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: re: Taylor's questions
Date: 3 Oct 1994 04:42:44 -0500
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Due to another seemingly inevitable technical hitch, my news server crashed
today. Fortunately, after only an hours work, I managed to revive Robert
Ettingers' answers to my questions in which he states:

>If the question is whether  structural changes occur during the process of
>preparation and cooling, the answer of course is yes--but relatively few and
>relatively small changes under favorable circumstances.

Relative to what? Perhaps you can characterise "favorable circumstances"

>The latest and penultimate report of the first project indicates "very
>good" (although of course not perfect) results in general, with no cracking
>at either the naked eye or microscopic level and generally good
>preservation of structure at all levels, as I interpret the reports.

Does this include the molecular, and in particular, the DNA level?

>Some questions remain to be clarified, and we also want comments by several
>competent independent parties before making any definitive claims, but as
>far as I know, from the information  I currently have, these are the best
>results so far reported with mammalian brains, after rewarming from liquid
>nitrogen temperatures.

So these results refer to the accumulative changes resulting from freezing
and thawing, are there any results specific only to freezing?

>I believe the current total in suspension is about 50 humans, of whom the
>Cryonics Institute has thirteen, all full body.

Thank you. I was suprised to learn from the FAQ that some 20 out of the
60 suspended had thawed because their cryonic organsations had failed. So
are we looking at 10 more suspensions since 1992, or have their been more
failures? Are you willing to disclose the number of CI members awaiting
suspension?

>Cryonics Institute procedures are available in Europe through English
>mortician Barry Albin, F.A. Albin  & Sons, London. I believe Alcor offers
>services through a British subsidiary.

Perhaps someone can provide full address details of these European service
providers. This and the above CI statistics would be helpful additions to
the FAQ.

Thank you again for this information, and for answering my naive questions.



[ Apparently Mr. Taylor was not able to recover Steve Bridge's answers
  to his questions (message #3186), so I forwarded that message to him
  via private email. - KQB ]

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