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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:42:44 EDT
Subject: once more, with feeling

DSS seems to purport to refute my claim that all conscious motivation is  
self centered, in part by saying that self sacrifice is common and in part by 
 noting that we have and cherish social connections.
 
 
This is just confusion. What I say is not "amateur social science" but  
rigorous philosophy and logic. 
 
 
There is never any conscious self sacrifice, only the sacrifice of one want 
 in favor of another. You may sacrifice your life for someone or something 
you  hold dear, but if the choice is a conscious one that simply means that, 
at that  time and place, you calculate more pain or less satisfaction in 
making the  superficially "selfish" choice.
 
 
Incidentally, if DSS is as devoted to "evidence" in the literature or the  
weight of expert opinion as he appears to be, how can he be favorable to  
cryonics? After all, the "experts" are heavily biased against  it.
 
 
Robert Ettinger


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