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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
Subject: Fw: uploading and survival
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:10:49 -0000

Conventional digital computers use devices whose operation is described as 
"quantum effects", but it doesn't mean that they are not deterministic.

In the 1960s, "stochastic computers" were considered, where the maths 
surrounding the behaviour of random noise was used to perform calculations 
using electric random noise as the computational element (instead of 
electric current in analogue computers, or electric pulses in digital 
computers).

This suggests that even if quantum effects occur at nerve junctions, it 
doesn't mean that the system as a whole is not deterministic. Of course 
there could be other arguments that refute uploading, but difficulties may 
arise if the same arguments could refute, for example, the survival of self 
between sleep periods.

Ultimately you do you best to survive, and whatever these arguments may 
prove or not prove, cryonics is one such "best" and under some circumstances 
uploading would be another.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

----- Original Message ----- 

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There is evidence that quantum effects occur at nerve junctions. If
this is correct, then the conventional computer architecture, which is
based upon deterministic circuits would not be a possible physical
basis for 'uploading'.

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