X-Message-Number: 33209
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:02:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Urgent: Attention Cryonicists
From: Jonathan Hinek <>

In response to Message #33208, Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:04:01 EST:

From a file posted by Mike Darwin:

"A Nest of Vipers

"The malice, venom and obvious contempt with which cryonics is
attacked on Melody's Maxim's blog 'Cryonics Meets Medicine'
(http://cryomedical.blogspot.com/), Richie Arnold's 'Cryonics
Factsheet' (http://www.cryonicsfactsheet.co.uk/ ), on the pages of the
Cult Education Forum
(http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,64749,page=76) or on Cold
Filter, is not only unacceptable, it is intolerable. It might be
understandable, if not excusable, if there were even the flimsiest
factual basis for most of these attacks."
--

While I agree with many things Darwin has had to say, I have to go on
record stating that I don't think Cold Filter deserves to be singled
out with these other sites. Cold Filter is a forum of diverse opinion,
yes, one that has often gotten out of hand, but it is not an
anti-cryonics establishment. In fact, places like the anti-cryonics
Cult Education Forum are frequently criticized by the people who
frequent Cold Filter.

Another name mentioned by Darwin, Melody Maxim, is someone who no
longer posts on Cold Filter, because she doesn't want to be moderated
by me. I only mention that to further differentiate us from her site,
and other sites Darwin mentions. I'm not familiar with the cryonics
factsheet, or Richie Arnold, and the link isn't working for me
currently.

In the past, we have had posters who I felt crossed the line with
frequent personal attacks on Cold Filter, but those have been
curtailed, especially in recent months. There has been an effort to
see that they do not return. My effort to moderate ad hominems has
earned me criticism from some of Cold Filter's users, it has even
earned me harassment and threats from one user in particular. However,
most of the users at Cold Filter appear to appreciate the change. Most
of the people who frequent Cold Filter were not interested in
exchanging insults to begin with. Most readers there are truly
interested in cryonics.

Hopefully any other cryonicists who have gained even a modicum of
value from the Cold Filter forum can agree with me when I say it is
not deserving of any anti-cryonics stigma. It may, however, be
imperfect, because of an imperfect moderator (myself) wrestling with
the occasional onslaught of cryo critics or unruly posters. But I have
to add that there has been a great deal of improvement as of late. We
have a handful of very loyal pro-cryonics contributors who have done a
great job of being sure that the facts are out there. And I think it
is important that they continue to have these conversations in open
dialogues, for all to see.

Jonathan Hinek
CF Moderator

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