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Subject: CRYONICS Symmetry and such
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 94 13:46:34 PST

Since Charles Platt, Steve Jackson and Ben Best as well as Eric 
responded to my reposting of the item about Eric Klien, I suppose I 
owe CryoNet readers an explanation about it.  

The item was posted to a mailing list I read (for business reasons) 
which is 5-10 times larger than CryoNet, so my reposting it here (with 
a disclaimer!) certainly did little (if any) additional damage to 
Eric's reputation.  The post was in the spirit of "where are they 
now," since it had been many months--perhaps a year--since I last 
remember seeing a posting by Eric.  The reason for the lead-in comment 
was to connect the posting to cryonics, both the person and the irony 
involved.  (For the irony impaired, Eric accused Alcor: someone 
accuses Eric.  Alcor was eventually vindicated: Eric may well be.)  If 
you wanted to turn irony into a moral: Accuse not less you be accused.  

I should have put these comments in the original posting. 

It is also possible I should have put this item in CRYONICS.POLITICS.  
It would have broken the symmetry, since (as David C. pointed out) 
Eric's accusation "Money Update" in CRYOMSG #1186 was on the main 
list. 
  
Unfortunately, I was in a hurry and away from my home machine.  Since 
it is well known that Eric and I were on different sides of the split 
at Alcor, I can see how people considered them petty or vindictive 
remarks rather than an expression (mainly) of amusement. 

Three or four days after I posted, I recieved a bulk mailed letter 
from Eric.  (Knowing bulk mail, it probably went out two weeks ago.)  
The letter was an update on the state of his project, and what he is 
up to now.  Since it is a much better WATN? account than the one I 
reposted, and the content (both business and project aspects) are of 
interest to most of us on this list, I would like to see Eric to post 
it here. 

The reason it has taken me several days to catch up on CryoNet 
postings and respond is also a WATN question.  I have been in heads- 
down debugging mode for several months.  Nearly a year ago (and for 
complex reasons) I offered to run Xanadu Operating Company.  XOC is 
the company long involved in developing a hypermedia server--the one 
described in Drexler's _Engines of Creation_.  It has taken us nearly 
a year to regain momentum and start making significant progress, but 
things are looking up. 

Keith Henson

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