X-Message-Number: 3633 Date: 07 Jan 95 16:41:59 EST From: yvan Bozzonetti <> Subject: CRYONICS : More on ghosts. K. Lynch gives a formula for atomic gas, not for solid where thermal energy is in the form of vibrational, not translational displacements. Now, the serious part: In matter, there are many quantification levels, Quarks are quantified, gluons moving at the speed of light obey themselve to quantum laws. Together they form hadrons (protons, neutrons) with their own quantification, the nucleus as a whole is too subjected to this process, farther away, electrons have their own quantification, atoms, molecules are quantum objects. My suggestion, comming from the book "quantique" from the physicist J. M. Levy-Leblond holds simply that: Creeping displacement in some solids (may be included frozen cryonics patients) must be quantified on a scale far larger than one or a small group of atoms. This is physics such it is understood now. Next, the large phase space generated by relativistic process/ That idea comes from Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar who applied it to the presure in degenerate matter inside white dwarf stars. "Chandra" has get more than its lot of critics on the subject, now only crackpot would contest it. End of hard science facts. If you put all the element end to end, you get the possibility of a phenomenon not far from classical ghost stories. Must we take it with :>, 8-), or :<(...? Now, I am sure about two thing: Strange as it looks, my ghost story is not far away from current physics and technology two centuries from now will be far more strange than that. If present day cryonicists can't even think about such possibilities, then they are comming to a hard wall in their potential second life. Some year ago, I was starting to learn about "Moonshine" Does that looks serious? It is one of the most profound mathematical theory, may be the basis of all sciences in some centuries. I have some partial results on it, I never publish them on CryoNet nor elsewhere because I have no time to write them in full details. Sorry, I have some other subjects more directly linked to cryonics. I think creativity is essential to the progress of new technologies and some disturbing ideas stretched at the limit can be useful. I have no title or function to keep from flame critics, so I am more free than anybody to write. Some dislike freedom for themselve and for other.... YB. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=3633