X-Message-Number: 413 From att!compuserve.com!73750.670 Tue Aug 27 17:28:20 EDT 1991 Date: 27 Aug 91 16:53:48 EDT From: "Allen J. Lopp" <> To: "Kevin Q. Brown" <> Subject: USE OF CRYONICS E-MAIL LIST Message-Id: <> DATE: August 27, 1991 FROM: Allen J. Lopp Kevin, I too questioned the wisdom of your requesting those on the cryonics E-mail list not to pursue political discussions any further. It is now clear to me that the way people approach POLITICS IN GENERAL will have a huge impact on the alternatives we choose in our efforts (collective and individual) to keep cryonics available to ourselves--- whether it remains legal or not. For the most part, I respect and have some empathy with the opinions of those who have expressed disagreement with my political activist mentality. However to date, none of the anarchists/pure-libertarians have explained HOW the pursuit of political non-participation or "taking cryonics underground" will result in a better operating environment for us in the long run. Personally, I can't imagine how it possibly could. Just exactly how do YOU propose we deal with the situation if the Riverside District Attorney comes to the Alcor facility with an arrest warrant for the illegal disposition of human remains, accompanied by a fully armed swat team from the Riverside Police Department? Or, if that situation is hopeless to a pure libertarian, exactly how does a pure libertarian, starting with the present state of affairs, make precautions to ensure that that scenario ABSOLUTELY CANNOT come about? I am talking about solutions that a small group of people can put into effect, not something like re-structuring the entire United States government. If ANY of the anti-politics E-mail writers can give me an acceptable answer to that question, I will surely re-consider my position. That, ladies and gentlemen, is an open challenge to my critics, if you are up to it. Very truly yours, Allen J. Lopp Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=413