X-Message-Number: 4230
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:19:49 -0400
From: "Keith F. Lynch" <>
Subject: Re: Lower animals

Jim Davidson <> writes:
> Humans have taught several species of apes to speak using sign
> language and other methods.

This has been pretty well debunked, in experiments where human students
were taught these "languages" in a way similar to how the apes were,
and when questioned said they had no linguistic understanding of what
they were doing.

Those TV "documentaries" were very selective in picking what looked
like short meaningful phrases out of lengthy runs of word salad.

> One of the most interesting experiments in suspended animation
> research that I can conceive would be to train an ape ... and then
> suspend that animal.  Lower its temperature to whatever level we can
> reach and still resuscitate, then see if there is any measurable
> difference in its languaging ability.

The damage of interest mostly happens at temperatures well below
freezing, and animals can't yet be revived after freezing to such
temperatures.

As for Omni magazine, are you aware of Alcor's Omni ad campaign in
which they had a contest to give away a free suspension?  I don't
know how many new members Alcor got from that.  Perhaps someone from
Alcor can answer.

But please don't assume that someone will either sign up within two
years or not at all.  It takes some of us a little longer.


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