X-Message-Number: 5253 Newsgroups: sci.cryonics From: (Brad Templeton) Subject: Re: Mind Uploading -> No revival of cryonics patients Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:48:31 GMT Message-ID: <> References: <46q9ef$> <> <> <> In article <>, Brian Wowk <> wrote: > I believe that it is a mistake to think that cryonics patients >are going to be revived because the world at large cares. I also That is *exactly* my point. However, there is some probability that cryo-revival nano could be developed by cryonicists, but I think it's pretty slim, and I think it's ridiculous to think you're sure that crynonicsts can develop cryo-revival nano unless the rest of society does 98% of the work by developing general medical nanotechnology, and cryonicists take it the last 2% to apply this to revival. To make an analogy, consider the development of something like the new units for the blind which contain a GPS receiver, CD-ROM map of the area, notebook computer and audio output device. They let the blind walk around town, always knowing where they are, never needing to read street signs or worry about getting lost, as long as the batteries are up. That's wonderful and gives the blind great new mobility. But no matter how much the blind might want this device, there is no way they could have it if society didn't want to build GPS receivers, CD-ROMs, maps, microprocessors, compilers and the works for its own purposes. No matter *how* dedicated the blind and their allies were, they just couldn't make this exact product. (Sure, there are alternates the blind have used for a long time to navigate, that's not the point, I'm talking about this exact product, and at an affordable price.) Some day we might have artificial intelligence because people are dedicated to making it. But without society to build fast computers, compilers and software tools? Not likely. There are things today that Bill Gates couldn't get even if he spent all his money, but if society has a motive to make the tools for them, he can get them for $199.95 at the corner store. I think cryo-revival is one of these things. -- Brad Templeton, publisher, ClariNet Communications Corp. The net's #1 Electronic newspaper http://www.clari.net/brad/ ...Announcing 1 MILLION paid subscribers! (www.clari.net) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5253