X-Message-Number: 5659
Date: 24 Jan 1996 07:05:29 U
From: "Norton, Brook" <>
Subject: Chances of Revival

Once all the pieces came together for me, that cryonics was a rational way to
possibly defeat Death, I had to reprioritize my goals in life.  If cryonics is
real, how much of the precious time during my "natural life" should I devote to
being sure I am suspended, and to promoting cryonics in general?  Well if the
odds of a successful revival are only a million to one, even though this is not
zero, I wouldn't be interested in devoting much of my time to cryonics on the
SLIM chance it worked.  However, if the odds are, say in the 5-10% range, then
things are getting interesting.  If the odds are, say in 50% range, then
cryonics should become a big priority for me.  So as some of you may have seen
in The Immortalist about 2 years ago, I put together a spreadsheet to take your
estimate of the odds for each of the pieces that go into a successful revival,
and then combine all the pieces for a total estimate for success.  Some have
criticized that its not reasonable to try to estimate the odds of success
because there are so many unknowns that any guess is a poor one, but I
disagree.  If you input your optimistic estimates, then your pessimistic
estimates, then your best guess estimates, you develop a feel for the order of
magnitudes involved.  If your most optimistic estimate yeilds a 1 in 10,000
chance of success, maybe you should spend your time doing something else.  If
your optimistic/pessimistic estimates range from 80 to 1% chance of success,
this also tells you something... that there is a large degree of uncertainty,
but that the range includes a good chance for success, and that devoting much
time and money may be a wise investment.  Below I've listed all the pieces I
included as neccesary for a successful revival, along with my best guess
estimates and the final odds for survival based on these inputs.

Inputs:
The inputs often take the form of "what are the odds that a natural disaster
will destroy the patient in a 20 year interval.  Then, the spreadsheet
calculates the odds that a natural disaster will occur as time marches on for
the frozen patient.

* Odds that science will cure you of old age before you deanimate: 5%
* Odds that you will be destroyed very shortly after deanimation (such as
autopsy, deanimation in remote location, poor suspension, etc.): 5%
* your current age: 33
* your age when you deanimate: 83
* natural disaster occurs in each 20 yr period (fire, flood, quake, etc): 3%
* storage failure occurs in each 20 yr period (leak, human error, sabbatoge,
etc.): I start at 5% for first 20 yr period and decrease to 1% in later periods
as the cryonics industry matures.
* storage co. financial failure in each 20 yr period: I start at 20% in first
20 yr period and decrease to 10% in later yrs.
* government interference occurs in each 20 yr period (coroner, cryonics
outlawed, etc.): 3%
* other misc disasters occur in each 20 yr period: 3%
* odds that affordable reanimation technology will be available in each 20 yr
period: I start at 5% for the first 20 yr period and increase to 50% in 150
years from now and continue to increase to 97% in 250 yrs from now. 

Outputs:
The outputs in the spreadsheet are shown graphically over the next few hundred
years, the graphical outputs are:
* odds that reanimation technology will become affordable vs. time (a repeat of
your input)
* the odds that any disaster will distroy the patient vs. time
* the odds that the patient will still be frozen vs time
* the odds that the patient will be reanimated in each 20 year period vs time
* the odds that the patient will be reanimated by this time vs. time

And finally a single value for the odds of not dying of old age (either by
curing old age before you deanimate or by a successful reanimation): 35%

35% for me is very encouraging, so I'm in it for the long haul.

This spreadsheet is designed to be simple to use and I would encourage anyone
interested in pluging in their own estimates to e-mail me privately, and we'll
get a copy of the spreadsheet to you.

Brook Norton
Aerodynamicist, McDonnell Douglas, Long Bch CA


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