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From: John Sharman <>
Newsgroups: uk.legal,sci.cryonics,sci.life-extension
Subject: Re: Death (was Donaldson MR and Miss Hindley)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:54:21 GMT
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            "John de Rivaz" writes:

> In article: <>  John Sharman 
> <> writes:
> > BTW, why *do* cryonics people (I use the expression in its widest sense)
> > insist on crossposting to non-cryonics groups? The stuff with a legal
> > element is fair enough, but why do you make us suffer the
> > pseudo-scientific crap with no legal content at all?
> 
> The reason for quoting the scientific arguments is that some lawyers are 
> saying that their profession will not allow cryonicists the freedom to life 
> (if it contravenes their freedom have bodies otherwise treatable 
> with cryonics chopped up, or to disburse estates to fee paying clients) 
> until the process can be proved, or at the very least there is some grounds 
> for beleiving that it will work. Therefore it is emminently reasonable to 
> post those arguments to a legal newsgroup.

The only poster I've seen in uk.legal who claims to be a legislator (the
persons against whom your complaints are in truth directed) is Bob
Whitaker and that pathetic specimen wandered over from your side in the
first place.

By an argument similar to yours sci.cryonics desperately needs our threads on:

  sentencing (for those cryonics fraudsters who get caught)
  issue of process (defective supplies of liquid nitrogen)
  enforcement (extracting money from the stiffy's relatives to help it
  stay cool)
  employment (for the cold mortuary attendants)
  Defence of insanity (of direct interest to all of you)

So let us understand each other quite clearly: You think that it's up to
the subscribers in one ng to take a unilateral decision that their
material should properly be propagated to another? Yes or no? Upon your own
head be it.

> I suppose you are free to hold the opinion that people such as world 
> experts on nanotechnology who are held in the highest esteem by 
> organisations such as Xerox, and appear at length on TV programmes like 
> "Horizon" and "Equinox",  write "crap". But I think that opinion reflects 
> on you more than anyone else.

To me, here, it's crap. Waste. Garbage. Dross.   Context is important.

In another (appropriate) place it might be regarded as valuable and
welcome fertiliser.
-- 
Regards,

John Sharman
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