X-Message-Number: 6594 Date: 24 Jul 96 02:56:04 EDT From: Paul Wakfer <> Subject: Prometheus Project: Science Method It is entirely reasonable that most of the science questioning of the Prometheus Project so far has been directed not at the problem of how reversible cryopreservation of the brain will be achieved, but instead at how this can be "convincingly demonstrated and scientifically proven" when the body of the animal is not available. In a nutshell, "How can we demonstrate mental faculties in a brain with no IO capability?". I was very much aware of this when I began the project. I was also aware that in order for the project to have a *major* impact on science, medicine and human culture, this demonstration is crucial. And I was also aware that I had very little chance of obtaining the necessary funds to execute the project *unless* this revolutionary potential existed. The goals of the project are a challenge to both cryobiology to reversibly preserve the brain, and to neurobiology to provide us with methods to show convincing evidence of this. The following description is my present understanding of how this might be done. However, it should be clearly understood that this is preliminary and is subject to many possible changes both before and after the project research has begun. In addition, while I am sure that the following is going to raise more questions than it answers among the science readers of this forum, I am *not* open to answering these questions or giving any more detail at this time. Later, there will be a time for such discussion and dissection of the proposed research plans. In-situ model: 1. A mammal will undergo preliminary operations and recovery to modify the body to head vasculature to be more suitable for the experimental procedure *without* compromising the viability of the animal. 2. The vasculature of its head will be isolated from that of its body, and the vasculature of its brain from that of its superficial skeletal muscle, eyes, facial nerves, and ears to the extent that this is possible. Vitrification perfusion will be applied to its brain, and head/brain interface, while its body is maintained in mild hypothermia possibly still with its blood intact, by either its own a beating heart and a ventilator, or by a heart-lung machine. 3. The vitrification perfusion procedure will be followed by cooling of the brain only to -70xC by perfusion with cold perfluorochemical while attempting to maintain a 70xC+ gradient from the superficial tissues to the brain in order to allow the sense organs and the means of brain self-expression to be spared to the greatest extent possible. 4. The head will then be rewarmed to just above freezing with vitrification solution washout and blood reinfusion. 5. The head/brain/body vasculature will be reconnected, and the whole animal will be rewarmed and revived. Isolated head model: This will probably be begun first, in order to ascertain whether the whole head will withstand the cryopreservation procedure for the brain and therefore obviate some of the complexity detailed above. If neither of these approaches is feasible, however, we do have an IO problem. In this event, we might have to be content with doing Robert White experiments, in which the brain within the skull is transplanted to a recipient so it can be monitored in less definitive ways over a few weeks (until rejection occurs). Those experiments would at least allow us to optimize brain viability. Another possibility is what is now being done in the lab with livers and kidneys, i.e., perfusing them with blood in vitro. This has several advantages, including the ability to eliminate white cells and platelets, which could otherwise preclude assessment of cerebral (and even superficial tissue) function, and the ability to lower hematocrit to permit perfusion that otherwise would not occur. Something this modest might be sufficient if the neurobiologists can give us sufficiently convincing tests to perform on the in vitro perfused brain. Another advantage is that we can perhaps more easily quantitate perfusion and other defects and learn how to overcome them. Yes, I know this is a tall order. There is no question that this whole project is on the leading edge of several branches of science and medicine. But then the only way humanity ever progresses is by constantly and steadfastly "pushing the edge of the envelop"! -- Paul -- !!!!! REVERSIBLE BRAIN CRYOPRESERVATION *CAN* BE ACHIEVED IN 10 YEARS !!!!! Paul Wakfer email: Voice/Fax: Pager: US: 1220 E Washington St #24, Colton, CA 92324 909-481-4433 800-805-2870 Canada: 238 Davenport Rd #240, Toronto, ON M5R 1J6 416-968-6291 416-446-9461 (currently in Canada) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6594