X-Message-Number: 6832 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 96 11:14:35 From: Dave Pizer <> Subject: Pizer replies again to Platt I hate to keep dragging this on. I know it is painful for those who truly liked Tim Leary, but we must clear this up. Charles Platt writes: > Now that the inevitable Dave Pizer has assured us that he never heard > Timothy Leary say he did not want to be frozen (which merely means that > Pizer didn't bother to telephone Leary during the last three or four > weeks of his life), It is true that I did not call Tim during the last few weeks of his life. I thought it best not to interfere. CryoCare was in charge. I know from experience that it's not in the patient's best interest for other cryonics companies and their personnel to get involved during this crucial period when the patient is going through all kinds of hell. Interference can cause extra problems--and you have plenty of problems already, even in the "good" cases. >I have one more general observation to make, which is > that the comments from Cosenza and his partner Mondragon, and from Pizer, > and possibly even from Keith Henson, are being made for one obvious > reason: to embarrass CryoCare as much as possible. This is not true. Tim Leary was one of us for 5 years. If there is any reason for anyone to feel embarrassed, CryoCare caused its own embarassment. The sad thing here is that Platt shows no remorse. It appears all he wants to do is avoid any possible imputation of blame. > > I am heartily sick of this sanctimonious posturing. So far as I know, > CryoCare officers and directors have NEVER criticized the handling of an > Alcor case publicly, even when Paul Genteman died under regrettable > circumstances. Nor have we run any magazine features describing Alcor > cases in detail. We mind our own business. "We mind our own business" ?????????? Charles how can you make such a statement when *everyone* knows that CryoCare was started out of a year or more of public criticism of Alcor. CryoCare promoters (before and after CryoCare was formed) made public claims that Alcor was not doing cryonics well enough and they would start CryoCare and do cryonics better. Alcor members were solicited for years and were told all kinds of untested claims as to why CryoCare was better. > I think it's way past time for a similar attitude of restraint and common > sense at Alcor. We do not have to criticize CryoCare publicly--your public record does that for you. We are truly sad that Tim Leary did not get frozen and it is also sad that you don't express any remorse. In my opinion, lack of respect for others is why Alcor opened the door as wide as it did for certain individuals to leave. Dave Pizer Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6832