X-Message-Number: 7211 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:52:01 +0100 From: John de Rivaz <> Subject: Plutonium This report about government plutonium experiments on live subjects has interest for cryonicists. At the time the plutonium was injected, it was an experiment - the knowledge we have today was not as widespread and those that beleived what we now know to be true were considered as controversial people. The same situation exists with cryonics - people are being subjected to compulsory autopsy, which reduces or even eliminates the chances of cryonics working for them. There is knowledge today that cryonics will work, but it is not provable by experiment. As cryonics is only completed in the future when revivals take place (or are tried but fail to be successful) that experiment is not completed. If the people who injected the plutonium, and those who gave the orders for it to be done, can be sucessfully punished, either by law or otherwise (eg media exposure), then it should be good for the cryonics movement. "Obeying orders" or "I am innocent because I did it as a government employee" should not be acceptable. If they are accepted by lawyers, these reasons or excuses are unlikely to be accepted by ordinary sensible people. Forwarded from Terra-Libra email list: >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------- NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 ----------------------------------------- For release: November 21, 1996 ----------------------------------------- For additional information: Bill Winter, Director of Communications (202) 333-0008 Ext. 226 Internet: ----------------------------------------- Secret government medical experiments warrant jail, not payoffs, say Libertarians WASHINGTON, DC -- Jail time, not payoffs -- that's the way to deal with 30 years of secret, gruesome government medical experiments, the Libertarian Party said today. "The government should not be able to buy its way out of responsibility by paying off victims with taxpayers' money," said Steve Dasbach, chairman of America's third-largest political party. "Instead, attempted murder charges should be filed against the politicians who approved secret radioactivity, chemical, and biological experiments on innocent Americans." Dasbach's comments came after Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary announced this week that the government would pay $4.8 million to the families of 12 human "guinea pigs" who were injected with plutonium and uranium -- without their knowledge or consent -- during secret government experiments in the 1940s. A better response, said Dasbach, would be to bring to justice the people responsible for such experiments. "Politicians, bureaucrats, and government employees should be held to the same standard as any other American," he said. "If an average citizen, for example, secretly injected people with highly radioactive Plutonium 239, he would be in jail facing murder charges. Instead, the government is spending $4.8 million of our money to try to buy a clean conscience." The use of taxpayers' money for the payoff is especially reprehensible, said Dasbach. "If compensation is warranted, it should be in the form of victim restitution from the specific individuals responsible for the crimes," he said. "Taxpayers shouldn't be further punished for the crimes of politicians." After all, noted Dasbach, American citizens have been victimized ever since the secret experiments started in 1940. "First, thousands of individuals were the subjects of horrific government experiments for more than three decades," he said. "Then, Americans were kept in the dark for another two decades while the government tried desperately to cover up its crimes. Now, we're being taxed to pay off the victims of these ghoulish experiments -- while the politicians and bureaucrats who committed these crimes remain at large." In announcing the settlement, O'Leary said the government was "grateful" to the victims for "the tough lessons they have taught us about trust, responsibility, and accountability between the government and the people." "The real lesson this case teaches is: Government can't be trusted," countered Dasbach. "If politicians have power over our lives, they will abuse it. And the more power we give politicians, the more they abuse it. If nothing else, this tragic case should end the myth that such atrocities can't happen in America." Despite the $4.8 million payoff, lawsuits continue to pile up from as many as 20,000 other individuals who are demanding compensation by the government for biochemical experiments conducted in the 1940s, '50s, and '60s, according to news reports. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, noted Dasbach. A Congressional subcommittee hearing in Washington, DC on September 28, 1994 revealed that up to 500,000 Americans were endangered by secret defense-related tests between 1940 and 1974 -- including covert experiments with radioactive materials, mustard gas, LSD, and biological agents. For example, between 1949 and 1969, the Army released radioactive compounds in 239 cities to study the effects, according to General Accounting Office testimony the hearings. Other secret tests were conducted on prisoners, terminally ill patients, military personnel, hospital patients -- even children. At the time of the hearings, GAO officials stressed that the number of victims might increase, as new information was uncovered from Pentagon, CIA, NASA, and Energy Department files. -- The Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ 2600 Virginia Ave. NW, Suite 100 voice: 202-333-0008 Washington DC 20037 fax: 202-333-0072 For subscription changes, please mail to <> with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the subject line -- or use the WWW form. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< -- Sincerely, **************************************** * Publisher of Longevity Report * John de Rivaz * Fractal Report * * details on request * **************************************** In the information age, sharing can increase world wealth enormously, because giving information does not decrease your information. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohndeR Fast loading, very few slow pictures Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7211