X-Message-Number: 7428
Date: 05 Jan 97 15:55:48 EST
From: DOLINOFF <>
Subject: Re # 7370


I keep the messages of interest for me only in the printed form.  Thus, it would
take me time to repeat here as this is the rule, the  message I answer.  Thus,
I only tell that I answer here the very good remarks of  Mr Olaf HENNY's
message 7370 with which I fully agree.
It is why  I let the listers know the answer I have made to SCIENCE ET VIE that
has published a terrible paper against our Idea on January 1.  I begin by to

tell them of their technical mistakes and then ask them to publish in their next
"FORUM" the following message I sign with my titles :
    
        " Yes : freezing of the whole human body inflicts traumatisms and
anything as 10~24 out of the 10~28 atoms are displaced. Yes : we hope that the
nanomachines reach the proper spot, analyze the damages and restore them.  This
is a crushing task.  But progresses of science are also crushing. In the
beginning of this century, neither the neutron, nor the DNA nor the atomic
energy were known, and to go into the moon or to see in PARIS anyone who is in
SIDNEY seemed forever impossible. 
The only conclusion for a true scientist is : nobody can tell that the chances

of a future return back to life are certainly zero, and only will be able to try
them those who will have been frozen.
Not those who will have become carbonic gas, methan, ammonia and  water vapour.

And the molecular assembly constituting a human body is of a price impossible to

estimate for those who dont believe to own an immortal soul !  I shall help them
to travel to the States when alive.
Let the others go to the tomb."

                     Now, I add for the listers that belonging me, when I say :

It is not sure that the chances of a future return back to life of the suspended
are equal to zero,
                     there are NOW only  two possible conclusions  :
   OR : the told chances are PERHAPS equal to zero
   OR : the told chances are PERHAPS different from zero

                     But  the told phrase :

It is not sure that the chances of a future return back to life of the suspended
are equal to zero,
                     has not as consequence  :
            the told chances are CERTAINLY different from zero.


NOT CERTAINLY ZERO             is completely different from            CERTAINLY
NOT ZERO.
It is impossible to try to transform the one into the other.

                      Only in a far future will it be possible to chose between
these two phrases :
    OR :  the told chances were EQUAL to zero
    OR :  the told chances were EQUAL to one.
                     It is impossible now to know which of these two phrases
will have proven to be true.           


                                                                                 
To understand better these problems,I have begun to read Mr ETTINGER's paper on
the mathematical calculation of the present chances. But I confess to have been

unable to understand the mathematics of the level they were, because it has been
a long delay since I finished my studies.  Also, the subtlety of the ideas was
out of my reach.  It is why I have been unfortunately obliged to abandon to try
to understand this booklet.


                                                                                 
Anatole DOLINOFF 


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