X-Message-Number: 7828 From: Brian Wowk <> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:59:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: Chris Benatar Chris Benatar <> writes: >In one of Brian's posts, I seem to recall him mention warming rates >being much faster, in the same area as you mention above. Cooling and rewarming rates are similar. A few days ago I did mention that our calculated cooling/rewarming rates for brains and kidneys are much higher than for other organs because of their vascularity, and this is probably what you are thinking of. >I look forward to seeing Brian's work published in full detail. I find it >odd that Mrs Visser was bombarded with demands for publication but Brian >has not even recieved a single request. Perhaps because we've already made great efforts to explain the work, what it means, and field questions about it. (I must also clarify that FC cooling is a development of 21st Century Medicine, and especially Mike Darwin; my own role in this invention is secondary.) There is a difference between sharing an important development in substantial detail *within the cryonics community*, and launching international media coverage claiming a scientific breakthrough with essentially no detail at all. It was impossible to even discuss (let alone verify) the Visser claims with the level of detail given. With FC cooling, all you need is a textbook of medical physiology and a handheld calculator to verify that the claims are reasonable. >Can anyone name the exact fluorocarbon used for instance? >I guess you have got to belong to "the fold". Or own a CRC Handbook. The choice of agent is not rocket science. While we will be submitting journal articles, there's already been sufficient discussion (including detailing of problems and pitfalls) to permit evaluation of the basic approach. *************************************************************************** Brian Wowk CryoCare Foundation 1-800-TOP-CARE President Human Cryopreservation Services http://www.cryocare.org/cryocare/ Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7828