X-Message-Number: 8043
From:  (Mike C.)
Subject: Re: CryoNet #8035 - #8041
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:04:46 -0400

>Message #8037
>Date:  Thu, 10 Apr 97 12:50:37 
>From: Mike Perry <>
>Subject: Re: CryoNet #8030
>
>>I had not heard it offerred mental alertness, please explain.
>>
>We in cryonics are looking forward to, not merely reanimation 
>(assuming the procedure is successful of course) but reanimation
>in a state of good health, which certainly includes mental alertness.

I was seperating cryonics( stasis) 
from physical augmentation( reconstruction).
I know now you were not.

>>>Thus, we are no more 
>>>aware of the psychic field associated with our own cortex, for 
>>>example, than we are of the psychic field associated with someone
>>>else's cortex." [quoted from *The Hedonistic Neuron* by A. Harry 
>>>Klopf, p. 53] 
>>
>>What is the range?
>
>The range of the "psychic field"?--sorry, I don't know.

Knowing the range of our senses 
is important to know what conciousness is.

>Both "continuing to process" and remembrance of the past are 
>essentials of survival
>You certainly need to continue to process, i.e. 
>to continue to be conscious (or to continue to awaken after 
>each period of unconsciousness). But if you allow arbitrary changes in 
>your past info (jettisoning it or replacing it with other info)

or combining it with new info.

>
>you could change into another being entirely. 

I agree.
I am conscious of knowing I forget 
and do change.

>
>Derek Parfit for example, 
>in *Reasons and Persons*, invokes a scenario in which he is gradually 
>changed into a copy of Greta Garbo. Clearly not the same person and 
>he, Derek Parfit, hasn't survived, even if somehow there was total 
>continuity of consciousness the whole time. That's my view at any 
>rate. 

I agree 
and also say it does not take such a drastic change to change.
Change is change.
Time is measured by change.
I exist in time.
I change.
As long as I feel my change 
I survive those experiences.
I live those experiences.
I live change.

>>I do not care too much if I am still "me"( as I was),
>
>Basically, you do not care too much about survival as I view it. 

May be not as you view it,
but survival is my purpose in life.

>
>Are you interested in cryonics?

Yes, I post here for a reason.

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