X-Message-Number: 8176 Subject: brains in vats Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:54:45 -0400 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <> > Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 10:54:34 +0100 > From: John de Rivaz <> > Subject: Re: Are we in a simulation? > > In article: <> > writes: > > First, answer me how you can prove that you are in the real world, and > > then we can go on to the question of the subjectivity experienced by a > > computerized intelligence. > > > > I contend that last week, I anesthetized you, removed your brain from > > your body, put it on life support, and attached you to a VR > > system. Prove that I didn't. Demonstrate that I'm lying. > > > > To do that would require technology that is not available at this time nor > is likely to be available for several decades or even more. That is not a demonstration. That is an assumption. Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=8176