X-Message-Number: 836 From: Subject: Alcor Nevada Minutes Date: Mon, 18 May 92 23:10:19 PDT ALCOR NEVADA MINUTES SUNDAY MAY 10TH 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM Ron Feuerstein Sterling Johnson Eric Klien Don Laughlin Ron Piturka Dave Pizer Jerry Searcy Frank Ujlaki Audi Flambe' Along the way to Don Laughlin's casino, my temperature light went on so I pulled over. I opened my hood to be met by flames! Luckily, coolant was being sprayed all over the place so the fire put itself out quickly. Unfortunately, the other person in our convoy, Jim Burns, became seperated from us and didn't know about the fire. So when he reached the Riverside Casino no one met him there and he eventually went home. Otherwise we would have had nine people at the meeting. To make a long story short, before the tow truck towed away my car out of the middle of the desert, Don's nearly brand new van had arrived to rescue us. We eventually arrived at our destination two hours late. The damage to the car was only $60, just the coolant hoses had to be replaced. EMTs Don will bring some of his employees to our next meeting so we can answer their questions before they begin their EMT training. Mercy Ambulance had a bigger backlog of students than was originally thought. Jerry and I won't be able to begin our training until October 20th. The training will end November 26th. We could start our training a month earlier at a community college but we would prefer to work with Mercy Ambulance since they do most of the EMT work in Nevada. The Fire Department does the rest of the EMT work. Clark County Fire Dept. The Acting Paramedic Coordinator also ignored the certified letter that Don Laughlin's lawyer set him. It looks like Carlos Mondragon's and Austin Tupler's advice didn't work. I will now try Sterling Johnson's advice of making an appointment to see this government official. Sterling says that using lawyers and certified letters is not the best way to establish relationships with public officials. [ Note: The following section is presented FYI only. As noted in previous messages, the cryonics mailing list cannot endorse any particular investment method, so any investments or large donations mentioned are not to be interpreted as solicitations. - KQB ] New Building We are going to buy the first building discussed for the sum of $435,000. The new owner of the building has agreed to sell it for that price. Ron Feuerstein, Don Laughlin's tax attorney, had some comments on the best way to buy the new building. He had the following to say about giving money as donations to Alcor instead of as an investment through a corporation: Advantages 1) Tax credit would be given to individual that year. 2) Unfriendly relatives couldn't get part ownership of building if Alcor member died. 3) Alcor may receive reduced property taxes if it owns the building. Disadvantages 1) Increased value of property in the future would not be credited to donor. 2) The Patient Care Fund (which would own this property) would be unable to sell the property in a hurry if the government was trying to seize its assets. Neutral 1) No yearly depreciation would be passed through donors/investors in either case since papers would be drawn up after the 1986 tax law changes. Based on these factors, Alcor is currently asking for donations instead of investments. If you are interested please contact Dave Pizer ASAP. Doctors Frank Ujlaki suggested that I contact a doctor who is a customer of his bookstore. This doctor showed some interest in cryonics. I'll contact him before the next meeting. Charlie Hartman recommends that when speaking to doctors that you use the words "experiment" and "volunteer" as in the following: "I'm in this experiment, I've volunteered -would you consider helping me?" Hydergine Steve Harris submitted the following after he read our last minutes on cryonet. Suffice it to say that after reading this I don't think adding Hydergine to our suspension protocol would be a good idea! [ Text of message #762 deleted to avoid duplication - KQB ] Recruiting Members The Las Vegas Review-Journal ran my free ad for a second time. It again failed but I will run it again next month. I expect a lot of Libertarians to show up at a meeting in the near future. We almost had quite a few attend this meeting but the lawsuit of Nevadans for Lower Taxes against various public and private agencys and officials was moved up by the courts. This anti- tax group is led by the Nevada Libertarian Chair and so the lawsuit stopped quite a few Libertarians from showing up. Jim Burns, one of the more active Libertarians in the state, almost did show up but my car fire ended his efforts at being at our meeting. Don Laughlin will have a few of his employees show up at our next meeting so we can answer their questions related to EMT training. This will probably give us an attendance record at the next meeting. I am open to suggestions on ways to recruit members. If anyone calls in any ideas, I will try to implement them before our next meeting. Patient Care Fund The Patient Care Trust Fund Advisory Committee met via telephone and recommended the following actions: 1) Close the Pacific Horizon bank account and the First Interstate Bank account to simplify matters. Transfer this money to the Charles Schwab account. 2) Close the Capital Preservation Fund account due to its market under performance. Transfer this money to the Charles Schwab account. 3) Invest the money in the Charles Schwab account into the Scudder Short Term Global fund. This is a fund that invests in the foreign equivalent of money market funds and then hedges to take care of currency fluctuations. This will be an investment of approximately $235,000. 4) Transfer $50,000 from the Benham Adj Rate Govt Sec Fund into the Charles Schwab account. This money will be invested in a convertible bond fund for increased performance. 5) Invest this $50,000 into the TCW Convertible Fund using Schwab. This will leave the Patient Care Fund with $400,000 left in the Benham Adj Rate Govt Sec Fund plus approximately $300,000 in non liquid assets. The actions were basically approved at the last board meeting. I'll report the exact actions taken by Alcor in our next minutes. I believe that the two actions that Alcor did differently were that the First Interstate Bank account was kept open because it contained prepaid suspension money and that the Scudder Short Term Global fund was bought directly to save $250 in commission costs. (We wanted to buy it directly to save Joe Hovey some work. $250 is only 1/10 of 1% of the amount involved and this transaction will increase Alcor's rate of return by 6%.) In the last minutes, Charlie Hartman asked if there was some way that members can put money into the patient care fund individually before they enter suspension. It seems that based on the money that we have in the First Interstate Bank account that the answer is YES. So people like Charlie should contact Alcor if they wish to make arrangements to prepay their suspension into the patient care fund. Certificates of Religious Belief Jerry Searcy and I had people witness our wallet sized certificates of religous belief. We will get them laminated before we use them. Other Alcor members can get them from The Venturists. Checkfree Corporation I have found this corporation could be used to make automatic monthly withdrawals from checking accounts and credit cards. I have spoken to Ralph Whelan and hope to soon work out the details in promoting this new way that Alcor members can donate money. This corporation is a little cheaper than the service offered by 1st Interstate Bank which is Alcor's bank. (They charge $250 to get such a service started, 1st Interstate charges $800.) Basically, this service would only be useful if we could get at least $1000/month in donations. The Seed Of The Woman Charlie Hartman recommend that we use this book for religious groups. If anyone's interested, I could ask Charlie for the publisher's and author's name. Tanya said she's interested, so I'll request the info from Charlie. Petition I passed around the petition that I received from Saul Kent. It asks for 1) An Executive search committee. 2) Permanent procedures for an ongoing evaluation of the CEO. 3) An official liason between Alcor's management and its membership. 4) The right for official chapters to choose a member of the Alcor board (one per chapter). 5) Returning a portion of membership dues to official Alcor chapters. Next Meeting Our next meeting will be on the second Sunday of next month, June 14th, at 5:00 PM at the Riverside casino in Laughlin, Nevada. Take 95 south from Las Vegas, through Henderson, where it forks between 95 and 93. Bear right at the fork and stay on 95 past Searchlight until you reach the intersection with 163 a little before the border with California. Go left on 163 and stay on it until you see signs for Laughlin. You can't miss the Riverside Casino in Laughlin, Nevada. For more information, call Eric Klien at (702) 255-1355. I'll be car-pooling there with other Las Vegans. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=836