X-Message-Number: 864
Date: 29 May 92 02:52:53 EDT
From: Michael Clive Price <>
Subject: CRYONICS Alcor UK meeting minutes
Minutes of the Sunday, 10 May 1992 meeting (5)92 of Alcor UK Ltd
at the Alcor UK Potts Marsh facility near Eastbourne, England
Minutes taken & prepared by: Michael Price
Distribution:
CryoNetUK
cryonet
Alcor Life Extension Foundation, by electronic mail
Alan Sinclair, by facsimile
Local membership at large, by post
Meeting began at 12:00 BST
Present were:
Martin Bayes
Chris Benatar
Janet Blake
Andrew Clifford
Patricia Cross
Christopher Darvill
"HL" (from Germany)
Michael Price
Alan Sinclair
Sylvia Sinclair
Steve Strong
Russell Earl Whitaker
Steve Whitrow
Apologies for absence received from:
Garret Smyth
1 Previous Minutes
The e-mail version of the 5 April (4)92 AUK minutes: Action
"4(2)92/REW" should have read "4(4)92/REW". Paper version
correct and accepted, by those present.
2 Actions (format: action#(meeting#)yr/actionee)
1(2)92/REW: AUK Newsletter. Awaits arrival of above
printer. Printer thought to be clearing customs. Action
Continues.
2(3)92/REW: Post labels. Now typed in. Awaiting printer
to print (ETA 30-April-1992). Action Continues
3(3)92/MCP: Michael to provide guidelines for a AUK
letterhead to Russell. This is now delayed while we sort
the legal situation about our name. Action Continues.
6(3)92/REW: Email distribution of Alcor charter for
comments. E-mail version released to AUK board. Action
Complete.
7(3)92/REW: Russell to get a pager in the near future.
ETA is 8-April-1992. Pager, from London Pager, arrived.
Action Complete.
1(4)92/MCP: Michael to contact Janet Blake to change the
name and address of the various accounts. Janet reports
most accounts changed, but not all. Action Continues.
2(4)92/MCP: Michael to pay first instalment of the
business rates on the facility. Done. Action Complete
3(4)92/MCP: Michael to sound out people on how much seems
reasonable. Local agreement on Alcor's dues as pounds;
i.e. 288.00 pa. Action Complete.
4(4)92/REW: Russell to continue to press Alcor US for a
response to our request for the 3/4 return of UK dues. Joe
Hovey has put the proposal to the Alcor Board. Action
Complete.
5(4)92/SRS: Steve Strong will continue to investigate
JANET when he returns to college. Steve has been
instrumental in the soon-to-arrive SCI.MED.CRYONICS (or
whatever it will be called) newsgroup, now in other hands.
Action Cleared
6(4)92/REW: Russell to contact GQ. Contacted and photos
supplied. A one-page piece (amongst part of a larger
survey of 'alternative' medicine) is expected in July.
Action Complete.
7(4)92/MCP: Michael to call Patrick Kessler of Hat Trick
Productions. Action Continues.
8(4)92/REW: Russell to confirm arrival and issue pager
number. Arrival confirmed. Number issued. Action
Complete.
3 Progress
3.1 Name change.
It was decided to incorporate the AUK board structure
mentioned at AUK meeting (2)92 by changing the name of
Mizar Ltd to Alcor UK Ltd. Alcor UK Ltd is not a formally
incorporated organisation, despite the sign on the
facility. Present directors of Mizar are Max More, John
Styles, Garret Smyth and Michael Price. Russell will ask
Max to resign, and replace Max. A decision on John will
depend on his sign-up status (in progress).
Action 1(5)92/REW: Russell to ask Max to resign from Mizar.
Action 2(5)92/MCP: Michael to change the name from Mizar to
Alcor UK.
The charity the Human Organ Preservation Research Trust
will continue to operate from the facility. This has a
bearing on what we want on our letterheads. Probably Alcor
UK Ltd, although Russell will seek legal advice from a
legal eagle contact on any possible ramifications on our
charitable status.
Action 3(5)92/REW: Russell to seek advice on the letterhead
content.
There was some confusion about our existing structures.
Here is a summary:
1) The facility is registered (at the Land Registry) as
being jointly owned by Alan, Janet, Sylvia and
Michael, split 50/50 between Michael and the other
three. Private contracts exist further subdividing
ownership between various other contributors,
including Alcor US.
2) Mizar Ltd exists as an incorporated entity (directors
= Max, Michael, Garret and John Styles). It is
financially dormant (i.e. just a shell company). The
accounts are not audited, in line with UK law.
3) Mizar Association, distinct from Mizar Ltd, exists as
unincorporated association. It has a cheque account
and has been used to pay some bills.
4) The facility has the sign Alcor (UK) Ltd on it. No
such organisation exists, although the plan is to
change Mizar Ltd's name to become Alcor (UK) Ltd.
5) HOPRT is a registered charity, set up by Alan, Sylvia
and Janet, residing at the facility. Donations to it
are eligible for tax relief. Its existence gives the
facility a greatly reduced rates bill.
3.2 AUK Chapter Charter.
E-mail version distributed to AUK Board for review. Copy
handed to Andrew at the meeting. Stephen W and Michael
have sent their comments to the other AUK Board members.
Not much actual discussion of contents at meeting due to
time pressure. Discussion will continue over e-mail. It
was decided to set up an e-mail AUK Board, along the lines
of CryoNetUK to facilitate communication.
Action 4(5)92/SRS: Steve S to set up an e-AUK Board
3.3 Bills.
There were various bills to pay - a large service charge,
next rates instalment and a water rates bill. It was
agreed to make bills refundable from the dues owed to us
from the US. These bills were paid on that basis:
Action 5(5)92/AC: Andrew to send Janet Blake funds to cover
the service charge.
Action 6(5)92/SJW: Steve W to pay the second rates
instalment
Action 7(5)92/MCP: Michael to pay the water rates
3.4 Publicity.
Russell will be giving a talk to the Oxford Union Laissez-
Faire Dining Club, entitled "Individualism and
Immortalism", at Worcester College, 21 May, 2000.
An article appeared in the East London Advertiser,
featuring an interview with Russell. A fairly accurate
report.
QED are preparing a programme about cryonics. Andrew has
supplied them with some material.
The deadline for an entry in Yellow Pages is approaching.
There is an opportunity to create a cryonics
classification, which does not exist in the UK or the US.
Action 8(5)92/AC: Andrew to get a new classification
created and Alcor UK placed in it (giving the facility
number).
E-mail. Steve S gave a resume of the latest progress with
the creation of an electronics cryonics newsgroup. This
process is being mostly handled by Kevin Q Brown / Perry
Metzger in the US. It seems the idea of the ALT group has
been dropped and 'we' are going straight for the more
official SCI.MED.CRYONICS listing. This would involve a
vote on the existence of the newsgroup. E-mail active
members were urged to notify anybody who might vote in our
favour to do so (when the call for votes is issued).
Omni. Chris B suggested that we should get our number
listed in the next Omni article by Charles Platt. Charles
Platt may be contacted via Brenda Peters / Courtney Smith.
Action 9(5)92/REW: REW to pass the facility number (+44-1-
323 460257) on to Charles Platt.
3.5 UK Dues
Following local polling it has been decided that to cover
our running costs AUK should set its dues (payable by Alcor
US suspension members in the UK) to the equivalent number
of pounds as Alcor US charges in dollars. Since Alcor US
charges $288.00 pa then this sets our local levy at 288.00
pa. This should just enable AUK to cover its basic running
costs. This would be a voluntary contribution. If members
were dissatisfied they could continue billing Alcor US
directly, as is done at the moment.
We are still sorting out the details of how AUK would levy
and collect the dues and transfer a share to Alcor US. The
latest that we know is that Joe Hovey was intending to put
the 3/4 'return' of dues to the Alcor US Board last Sunday
(3 May 1992). The principle of this was agreed with Carlos
and Mike Federowicz at the Gatwick conference, so we are
not expecting any surprises.
Action 10(5)92/MCP: Michael to contact Joe Hovey to find
out what the Alcor US official position is.
4 Any Other Business
4.1 A new set of emergency instructions are now in existence.
Action 11(5)92/REW: Russell will get a e-mail set of
updated emergency instructions from Tanya (at Alcor US).
4.2 The ambulance is now insured, although it still needs an
MOT and tax.
Action 12(5)92/ARS: Alan to get the ambulance MOT'ed.
4.3 Unexpected time constraints prevented Russell's talk and an
ambulance driving session.
4.4 David Bennett has supplied Russell with a comprehensive set
of insurance providers details. Russell has transcribed
the information into electronic form and it is available to
new members. It provides quotes and a cooperative agent's
address. There was some discussion about the quotes (which
seem very competitive). Steve S will provide another
agent's address.
4.5 The worldwide Alcor membership figures in the latest issue
of CRYONICS were noted with interest. The figures (for
those without CRYONICS - and why not?) are:
suspension in sign-up
members process
USA 269 124
Australia 13 1
Canada 11 4
UK 11 6
Whilst the UK comes equal 3rd in terms of suspension
members we have enough people in the official pipeline to
become clear 2nd - and we will before too long.
Alcor's total suspension membership figure (312) puts it
way ahead of any other cryonics organisations, by a factor
of approximately 3.
4.6 The next AUK neeting will be held at 11:00am on 7th of
June, 1992 at the Potts Marsh facility.
[Standard disclaimer: Alcor (UK) Ltd will soon be a legal entity
incorporated in the United Kingdom. There exists no statutory
or contractual tie between it and the Alcor Life Extension
Foundation, Inc. of Riverside, California, United States of
America.]
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