X-Message-Number: 9069
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:43:44 +0100
From: John de Rivaz <>
Subject: Re: 21CM

In article: <>  writes:
> Possibly the simplest thing would be for 21CM to go public; then would-be
> donors or investors could have a focus. It could also be very lucrative 
> for those currently holding 21CM stock. 
> 

I certainly agree with that. The advantage I see is that investors are at 
arms length from the people running the company. Mr Wakfer has suffered a 
lot of abuse on the Internet newsgroups as many people regarded him as the 
recipient of huge checks (probably only on a cursory reading of his posts).
 
If directors of a public corporation break the rules, then of course they 
are punished. But if they state their aims as research, they do the research 
and get no commercial result, then that is accepted by the investment 
community.

The advantage to investors is that they chose when and how much to invest. 
The directors don't even know who the shareholders are is the shareholders 
have brokerage accounts, so they can't send individual letters demanding 
more money as do charitities. With Internet stock trading organisations 
charging very low fees it is possible for the poorest of cryonicists to own 
a few shares and feel involved in 21CM if it were public.

> From: "John P. Pietrzak" <>
> I don't see the point to
> recruitment drives, particularly since _all_ of the money these people
> pay into the system (in all four groups, as far as I can tell) is
> spent directly on keeping them in storage, and none is directed towards
> getting them out.
> 

The creation of a reanimation organisation is yet another rival to 21CM. 
More importantly, Mr Pietrzak's contribution misses the point of 
cryopreservation.

When revival is possible, technologies will exist to cure most present 
reasons why the medical profession are unable to help patients who could be 
cryopreserved now. If we wait until revival is possible, then the number of 
people who could benefit from  cryopreservation would be much smaller than 
now. Also those who are dying now will not be helped at all.

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