X-Message-Number: 9348
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:57:33 +0300 (MSK)
From: Eugene Leitl <>
Subject:  #9342: Tragedy of the Commons [Charles Platt]

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, CryoNet wrote:

> Message #9342
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:05:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: Charles Platt <>
> Subject: Tragedy of the Commons
> [...]
> Since none of the 5 or so participants in the discussions of machine
> intelligence and human identity shows any sign of changing his opinion on
> these topics to any degree whatsoever, and since these discussions have

Right, so let's shut this discussion down. This 'My meme is bigger than
yours' stops being entertaining after a while.

> continued as background noise on CryoNet (often drowning the signal) for
> several years, and since the discussions concern matters that cannot be
> resolved conclusively till the middle of the next century (by which time
> almost all the participants will be dead or frozen)--why bother? 

one final note:

2050? I wouldn't be as pessimistic as that. Would a realistic model of C.
elegans mirroring individual properties count as an upload? We could have
that way before 2030. See Mitch's post to transhumantech:

  http://www.excelsior.org/transhuman_tech_list/msg00180.html

ciao,
'gene

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