X-Message-Number: 9657 Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:43:29 -0400 From: Jan Coetzee <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #9058 - #9062 References: <> I want to clarify this. By medical advances I do not mean cryonics. Clinical death does not refer to suspension. J.C. CryoNet wrote: > CryoNet - Wed 28 Jan 1998 > > #9058: CPR Cards and Alcor Life Memberships [Fred Chamberlain] > #9059: RE: CryoNet #9054 - #9057 [Halperin, Jim] > #9060: Those Elusive Millionaires [Charles Platt] > #9061: Re: CryoNet #9053 [Jan Coetzee] > #9062: The Future of Prometheus - An Open Discussion [Paul Wakfer] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message #9058 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:51:04 -0700 (MST) > From: Fred Chamberlain <> > Subject: CPR Cards and Alcor Life Memberships > > From: Fred Chamberlain <> > Subject: CPR Cards and Alcor Life Memberships > > Re: CryoNet #9057, Tim Freeman wrote: > > > I have signed up for a CPR course > > at De Anza College in Cupertino, > > and it would be great to have some > > people who get this email come along. > > Here's the ad for the course: > > This seems like a good time to point out that there will be a weekend course > for Alcor Suspension Members in the Northern California area on the weekend > of February 7th - 8th at Mark and Judy Muhlestein's home, on standby and > transport procedures. Extensive checklists on "what to do", as well as > training in the use of cooldown equipment, medications, infection control, > and other aspects of helping your fellow cryonics organization members in > emergencies will be part of this course. How does this tie in to CPR > courses and Life Memberships? > > For those of you who have had time to read your latest issue of The Phoenix, > a current CPR card (with at least one year to go prior to expiration - they > are "two year" cards) is the only requirement other than the weekend course, > for certification and participation as a CryoTransport Technician in Alcor's > program for standby and transport. Agreement to serve in this capacity in > Alcor's operations entitles the Member to an 85% reduction in dues, > including dues for the Life Membership program. The ten year installment > plan was $100/month for this in 1997, and now is $120/month, but until June > 1, 1997, for rescue people who qualify by that time, the rates roll back to > 1997, and the 85% discount means that Life Membership payments are only > $15/month. > > The course at Mark's and Judy's 10 days from now, plus the CPR course Tim > has mentioned, is all you would need to cut your present dues from $30/month > to $15/month *and* move into the Life Membership installment plan. Northern > California represents the highest concentration of Alcor Suspension Members > and thus is high on our priority list for development. The Alcor Northern > California high impulse HLR has been recently sent back to the manufacturer > for refurbishment, and has since been returned to Northern California. A > complete meds kit and new, far more portable ice bath will be part of the > course. We will be using a new configuration for measuring brain > temperature pioneered by 21st Century Medicine, Inc., in which tympanic (ear > drum) thermocouple probes are used, vs. the older methods (esophageal probes). > > This course could also be your entryway into rescue participation in a new > company, BioTransport, Inc. which is a possible service provider under > consideration for multi-organizational operations. While BioTransport is > still in the earliest stages of development, it is not too early for Alcor > Members who take this course to become familiar with its possibilities. > > For Alcor Members who cannot make the February 7-8 course, one will be given > in Southern California on March 7-8, and a third course will be given the > last week of March in Scottsdale, AZ immediately before the Alcor > Conference. Those who successfully complete the Arizona course get one more > benefit; free registration at the conference. > > For all the details, if you are interested, don't scratch through that pile > of mail looking for the latest issue of The Phoenix. Just call Linda > Chamberlain at 1-800-367-2228 (Alcor) and get the details. Space *is* > limited, and we will ask that you be committed to certifying by getting your > CPR card either at the course Tim has mentioned or before (many others are > available). We wish we could open this course up for those who are not > Alcor Suspension Members, but the legal advice we have been given is that > this would represent a liability for us, and (also) the whole purpose of the > course is to make the world safer for Alcor Members. > > The three courses mentioned above are probably the last "tuition free" > courses Alcor will be able to offer, so in that way too, this represents a > better value than will be available in the future. Remember, cryonics only > "works" if there are people to *make* it work. This is your chance to be > one of those who knows what to do, if life hangs in the balance for one of > your fellow Alcor Members! > > Fred Chamberlain, President () > Alcor Life Extension Foundation > Non-profit cryonic suspension services since 1972. > 7895 E. Acoma Dr., Suite 110, Scottsdale AZ 85260-6916 > Phone (602) 922-9013 (800) 367-2228 FAX (602) 922-9027 > for general requests > http://www.alcor.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message #9059 > From: "Halperin, Jim" <> > Subject: RE: CryoNet #9054 - #9057 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:33:29 -0600 > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD2B06.A0F52360 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > "den Otter" <> writes: > Subject: Miller Quarles & cryonics > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:57:11 +0100 > I suppose most people on this list have already heard of Miller > Quarles, > a rich Texan oilman, founder of the Society for Curing Old Age > Disease > and Geron Corp. http://www.geron.com/ (of telomerase fame). He seeks > immortality through genetic engineering, and has spent quite some > money > on research etc. He is also over 80 years old, and although he's > allegedly > in good health (unless, of course, he died recently) it seems obvious > that > he's not going to make it, i.e. the breakthrougs in anti-aging > research are > almost certainly too far off to be of any use too him. Since the man > is an > immortalist, one would expect that he has therefore made the > necessary > arrangements with a cryonics company. However, this doesn't seem to be > the > case. There is no mention of cryonics in any of the articles about M. > Quarles, > in which he *does* state that he desires biological immortality etc. > Is he for > some strange reason anti-cryonics, or simply unaware of the option? > (hard > to imagine, though). In the latter case it might be useful if someone > (with > some standing in the cryonics community) would notify Quarles. It goes > without saying that a suspension contract would greatly benefit both > Mr. > Quarles as well as the cryonics community (at least *one* company, > anyway ;) > > Apart from this, wouldn't it be a good idea for cryonics organizations > to > specifically > target the high(er) income groups (intensively)? Surely there must be > plenty of > rich folks out there without an urgent death-wish...Or has this > already been tried? > > For an article on Quarles, gentics & immortality: > http://www.inc.co.za/online/sunday_life/june_30/life.html > > ===To den Otter: > Miller Quarles is indeed alive and well, although he was hospitalized > and nearly died last year from a staph infection. I have spoken with > him recently (he wrote to me after reading an advance copy of The > First Immortal). Although a subscriber to Alcor publications, he has > not yet signed up for suspension. He seems to believe that aging > reversal will come in time for him, an opinion from which I have thus > far been unable to dissuade him. > I expect,as a result of my book, to run into many people with odd > views of death, society, religion, likely biotechnological progress, > etc., and welcome all suggestions about how best to handle such > situations, especially from cryonicists who have actually read The > First Immortal. > Best regards, Jim Halperin > > -- > The Truth Machine, a novelistic journey into the future. Now in > paperback. Explore the predictions or post your comments at > <http://www.truthmachine.com>The First Immortal is now at > book stores everywhere, and watch for the CBS/Hallmark > mini-series in 1999. <http://www.firstimmortal.com> > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD2B06.A0F52360 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING BASE64 ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9657