X-Message-Number: 9684 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 06:38:26 -0400 From: Saul Kent <> Subject: A Sense Of Perspective To Bob Ettinger: Bob, as I stated in my reply to Thomas Donaldson (9680), I've never said that "cryonics has 'failed'" (9679), only that the cryonics *movement* has failed (in many ways) to fulfill the enormous promise of cryonics. I've also not said that cryonics is "near extinction", but that there is the possibility of the extinction of the cryonics movement. When I say that "promotion must take a back seat to research," I mean in terms of money spent and in terms of time spent by scientists capable of improving cryonics methods, who, I believe should focus virtually all their time and attention on research. That's happening already, with people such as Mike Darwin and Brian Wowk, who once spent a good deal of time on cryonics promotion, but who are now engaged in research on a full-time basis at 21st Century Medicine. Actually, I'd like to see promotion and membership recruitment get *better* in a cost- effective manner, and I've made several suggestions in recent posts about how that might be done. I think the most cost-effective way of recruiting new members is to spend our time actively soliciting people like Scott Badger, who are already interested in (and to some degree knowledgable of) cryonics. To Scott (9681) I'd like to say that I believe that cryonics patients frozen today (under reasonably good conditions) have a much better chance of revival than of winning the lottery. I'm signed up myself and have been for the past 33 years. It isn't that I don't think I have a *chance* of being revived if I was frozen with today's methods, it's just that I want to improve my *odds* of revival...as much as I can, and as fast as I can! There are other good reasons for signing up today apart from your chances of revival if you were frozen tomorrow (which, I presume, is highly unlikely). The first is that, by supporting a cryonics society today, you can play a role in developing better cryonics methods in the future. The second is that, if you're reasonably young and in good health, it's relatively inexpensive to sign up via life insurance, an option that may not be affordable later on. I think your idea of an Internet survey to measure attitudes and opinions regarding cryonics is an excellent one, and I encourage you to help develop and post such a survey. I'll be looking forward to the results. ---Saul Kent, CEO 21st Century Medicine Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9684